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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">RySG is still considering Chris’ proposed change to the indemnification language, and may wish to discuss.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We had separate comments on Recommendation 13, namely:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> RySG disagrees that “arrangements” is the correct word (instead of “agreements”). However, RySG is willing to agree to use of “arrangements” if (i) ICANN
Org confirms by email to the list that “arrangements” is intended to refer to a legally binding instrument; and (ii) the recommendation contains a footnote that says this (ICANN Org confirmed that “arrangement” is intended to refer to a legally binding instrument.)
along with a citation to the date and author of that email. We note the recent ICANN Org reference to Article 26, which deals with Joint Controllers. Given the ICANN Org position that ICANN is not a joint controller, on the one hand, it seems inconsistent
to cite that Article as the basis for use of “arrangements,” on the other hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Separate from the issue Chris has raised below, RySG believes that the language in the original sentence should be changed from “Indemnification clauses
shall” to “Indemnification clauses should.” The RAs for some gTLDs (.arab, .amsterdam, and .helsinki, for example) do not indemnify ICANN because of the governmental status of the RO. Changing from “shall” to “should” respects that existing arrangement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">RySG’s comment #1 above also applies to use of “arrangements” in Recommendation 14.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kurt Pritz<br>
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<b>To:</b> gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Recommendation 13 - Responsibilities of the Parties - email list discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You have seen Chris’ suggested language for Recommendation 13 below (and Kavouss’ response). The result is a less prescriptive or precise recommendation but also alerts us to possible reaction by the ICANN Board. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please let me know if you disagree with or wish to discuss Chris’ recommendation. It would be great to receive feedback today so that we can schedule a discussion if need be, but please respond by tomorrow at the latest. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 4, 2019, at 1:58 AM, Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris.disspain@board.icann.org">chris.disspain@board.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I think your suggested language below brings together all of the points of view. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I do have one concern regarding the indemnification language “Indemnification clauses shall ensure that the risk for certain data processing is borne by either one or multiple
parties that determine the purpose and means of the processing”. This goes beyond my understanding of ICANN’s plan to explore ways to possibly reduce risk to the contracted parties with respect to providing access to non-public WHOIS data through a unified
access model. As currently drafted, I think the language might prove challenging when it comes time for the Board to consider this recommendation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Trang also raised a related question about indemnification where she noted that it’s not clear that liability should necessarily always rest with the party or parties that
determine the purposes and means of processing, for example in the case of a data breach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I think both of these points could be addressed if the sentence were edited to say something to the effect of: “Indemnification should be addressed as appropriate as part of
the arrangements between ICANN, registries, and registrars.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I hope this makes sense. Happy to discuss as always. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#9443FB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On 30 Jan 2019, at 19:53, Kurt Pritz <<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi Everyone: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To me, it seems as if we are in agreement with a set of principles and a variety of wordings will suit our purpose. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I believe we need to point directly to the thorough work done by several of our team that indicates that JCAs are an appropriate solution in many of the data processing cases.
Before we made any recommendation, we started with this analysis of data, purposes, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I also have learned that the responsibilities of the parties (contracted parties and ICANN) will vary for each purpose even for each data processing step. There is analysis
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Taking into account the Initial Report Recommendation, the work of the small group subsequent to that, and the comments on this list, I’d like to settle on the following wording: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">"The EPDP Team recommends that ICANN Org develop and implement any required data protection arrangements, as appropriate, with the Contracted Parties. In addition to the legally
required components of such agreement, the agreement shall clearly specify the responsibilities of the respective parties for the processing activities as described therein. Indemnification clauses shall ensure that the risk for certain data processing is
borne by either one or multiple parties that determine the purpose and means of the processing. Due consideration should be given to the analysis carried out by the EPDP Team ("Processors, Controllers, Co-Controllers and Joint Controllers," above in this Final
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">In addition, if Thomas or others wish to augment the analysis in the Initial Report with his email that are part of this chain (about avoiding liability), we should include
that as an individual contribution to the team analysis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It’s my hope we can accept this as a team.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Thanks for letting me weigh in on this and thank for the energy that’s gone into this discussion and the others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/Public+Comment+Review+Tool?preview=/102139731/102139865/gnso-EPDP-pcrt-Initial-Report-REC13_20181228.docx">
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the comments received require us to amend our report / recommendations. What we heard and read were primarily implementation issues, which - as I hope we can agree by now - must not guide our decision, but the actually circumstances. Additionally, we heard
and read about concerns, but no alternative has been suggested that would be a better solution to what we agreed on earlier. To me, that does not require a change of our recommendation. We are replacing a concrete recommendation with something vague without
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shall in a transparent manner determine their respective responsibilities for compliance with the obligations under this Regulation, in particular as regards the exercising of the rights of the data subject and their respective duties to provide the information
referred to in Articles 13 and 14,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><u>by means of an arrangement between them</u></b>" <i>[emphasis added] </i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I appreciate this is likely where Trang's suggestion is deriving from and I have no real issue with the concept of 'Arrangement' - but can we please be very clear, that as a contracted party,
who's lead DPA is clearly going to be Ireland (as will also be the case for a number of other CPs), my interpretation MUST be led by the laws which will be applicable to me, which is the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2018/act/7/section/79/enacted/en/html#sec79" target="_blank" id="LPlnk535997">Data
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">" Where 2 or more controllers jointly determine the purposes and means of the processing of personal data (in this Part referred to as “joint controllers”), they shall determine their respective
responsibilities for compliance with this Part in a transparent manner<span class="apple-converted-space"><b><u> </u></b></span><b><u>by means of an agreement in writing between them</u></b>, save in so far as the said responsibilities are determined by the
law of the European Union or the law of the State. <i>[emphasis added] </i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So regardless of whether or not we are considered Processors, Controllers or Joint controllers at some point in time, CPs will require a Contract (or more correctly an addendum to our existing
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So long as it is clear, on the record, that whatever word is used, be it agreement, arrangement, or Ketubah, it means a legally binding instrument, then I'm fine with it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:18 AM Trang Nguyen <<a href="mailto:trang.nguyen@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk939217">trang.nguyen@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you, Sarah and Kristina for circulating revised text for recommendation 13. We would like to make one additional suggestion: replace “…negotiates and enters into required
data protection agreements…” with “…develop and implement any required data protection arrangements…” Referring to an “arrangement” instead of an “agreement” would provide greater flexibility during implementation, which might take the form of an agreement,
a policy, or a specification. Accordingly, the following sentence should also refer to “arrangement” instead of “agreement.”</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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and it’s not clear that liability should necessarily always rest with the party or parties that determine(s) the purposes and means of processing, for example in the case of a data breach. We look forward to additional discussions with the EPDP Team on this. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk987638">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of "Rosette, Kristina via Gnso-epdp-team" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk770849">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Rosette, Kristina" <<a href="mailto:rosettek@amazon.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk452123">rosettek@amazon.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, January 28, 2019 at 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk541157">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk243770">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Recommendation 13 - Responsibilities of the Parties - email list discussion</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Subject to a friendly amendment, RySG supports the RrSG proposed text for Recommendation 13. Our friendly amendment is to change “shall” to “should” in the 3<sup>rd</sup>sentence. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The EPDP Team recommends that ICANN Org negotiates and enters into required data protection agreements, as appropriate, with the Contracted Parties. In addition to the legally
required components of such agreement, the agreement shall specify the responsibilities of the respective parties for the processing activities as described therein. Indemnification clauses should ensure that the risk for certain data processing is borne by
either one or multiple parties that determine the purpose and means of the processing. Due consideration should be given to the analysis carried out by the EPDP Team in its Final Report.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gnso-epdp-team
[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk364445">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sarah Wyld<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 28, 2019 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk454019">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Recommendation 13 - Responsibilities of the Parties - email list discussion</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The EPDP Team recommends that ICANN Org negotiates and enters into required data protection agreements, as appropriate, with the Contracted Parties. In addition to the legally
required components of such agreement, the agreement shall specify the responsibilities of the respective parties for the processing activities as described therein. Indemnification clauses shall ensure that the risk for certain data processing is borne by
either one or multiple parties that determine the purpose and means of the processing. Due consideration should be given to the analysis carried out by the EPDP Team in its Final Report.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On 1/23/2019 6:22 PM, Kurt Pritz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With the goal of progressing on issues via email, the leadership team has considered the discussion provided during the Toronto meeting and suggests the following compromise language to address
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">as suggested by Diane during the meeting to reflect that GDPR Art 28 is unlikely to apply in this situation, and<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">by an addition (bracketed & bolded below) to reference the analysis in the Final Report that this team recommends the creation of Joint Controller Agreements, to appropriately influence the negotiation of GDPR-compliant
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This language is intended to strike a balance between those preferring to leave some flexibility for ICANN Org and Contracted Parties to consider the appropriate agreements and those preferring
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I understand this is a complex topic that might require additional discussion but it is also possible that we cannot be dispositive on this issue prior to a lengthy contract formation discussion
that extends well beyond our time frames. For that reason, we are taking the liberty of making this recommendation and hope you accept it in the spirit it is offered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed Recommendation #13 Language</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Art. 28) or</s><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Joint Controller Agreement (Art. 26), as appropriate, with the Contracted Parties. In addition to the legally required components of such agreement, the agreement shall specify the responsibilities
of the respective parties for the processing activities as described therein. Indemnification clauses shall ensure that the risk for certain data processing is borne by either one or multiple parties that determine the purpose and means of the processing.
[<b>Due consideration should be given to the analysis carried out by the EPDP Team in its Final Report.</b>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kurt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk915732">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
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Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk756210">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" target="_blank" id="LPlnk500276">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk797866">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
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Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
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<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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