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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Matt and all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The most concerning part of the BC comments concerns Purpose 2. I think it is a slap in the face to those of us sincerely working towards a consensus outcome.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I probably don’t need to remind you how long we have debated that specific purpose. It was clear in Toronto that no less than 3 entire Stakeholder Groups (RRSG, RYSG and NCSG) did not think it
was a valid purpose at all. In the public comment period it obtained the least amount of support of all listed purposes. And yet we bent over backwards to try to accommodate the concerns of BC, IPC by arriving at an acceptable formulation of it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Even when it was clear we had overwhelming support for the current formulation of Purpose 2, we were required to add footnotes dictated in their entirely by BC and IPC that some of our members
find quite objectionable. And now, after all that, they say they can’t accept it unless it is reworded in a way that they KNOW is unacceptable to other SGs – a formulation that was discarded as long ago as the September face to face meeting. This is not “constructive
engagement,” folks. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Put directly, BC needs to withdraw those comments if it is serious about reaching a consensus. Any modification of Purpose 2 as currently formulated would trigger a reciprocal withdrawal of
support from NCSG for sure, and in all likelihood the CPH as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I guess you like the temp spec so much, or perhaps you are quite comfortable with the permanent absence of a policy, because if these tactics are continued that is exactly where we will end up.
As Matt stated, “</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">what’s to stop every other group from now putting forth their “minor amendments” in order to support the full report?”
Review our (NCSG) comments and get a listing of all the things we don’t like. But we accept the need for a policy and for compromise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Let’s see BC, IPC and ALAC rise to the occasion and show some statesmanship. Everyone has given up a lot of what they
want to get here. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Serlin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Margie Milam <margiemilam@fb.com>; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] BC Consensus Call Responses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thanks Margie for sending this over and I appreciate the time that I’m sure was put into this. I have a few initial comments but let me be clear these are my own personal comments and not those
of the RrSG.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">While I appreciate (and even personally agree with many of the “minor amendments” you have put forth, I <b>strongly</b> object to the manner in which they have been put forth. The reality is that
this group of <b>volunteers</b> have spent <b>thousands</b> of hours discussing and debating these very issues. Everyone had the opportunity to have their views heard and I recall many of these points being discussed among the group, so I don’t believe anyone’s
voice was silenced in the process.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The fact that not every group’s views were accepted and included in the report is how it should work in this multi-stakeholder model that we have. If every group had the expectation of always getting
their way, how could this possible be successful? </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Take the discussion of the organization field as an example…contracted parties started off with a position of redaction while other groups started with full display. After lengthy discussion and
debate, everyone compromised, and we ended up with something in the middle. I pointed to that very issue the other day in describing our work to the broader RrSG team as a successful outcome in the process.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">How would other groups feel if now we can back and said, “actually for us to sign off on this report, we need to go back to full redaction of the organization field…” I’m pretty sure I know the
answer, but what’s to stop every other group from now putting forth their “minor amendments” in order to support the full report.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">To be clear, I am not speaking for the RrSG and my comments are in no way a reflection of my views on the substance of your points. I’m simply disappointed we have come this far and are so close
to a milestone only to seemingly have our entire body of work held hostage.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">I’m also unsure of how we move forward…you’ve indicated you look forward to “constructive engagement” yet you’re clear that your support is contingent on your five amendments.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Apologies for the rant, but thank you for your willingness to read this far </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black">☺</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Matt </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Margie Milam <<a href="mailto:margiemilam@fb.com">margiemilam@fb.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-epdp-team] BC Consensus Call Responses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear Colleagues-</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">The BC and IPC members have been working hard over the weekend to develop our response to the consensus call and GNSO Council voting on the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EOTSFGRD_g.-2BDraft-2BFinal-2BReport-3Fpreview-3D_102145109_104237485_EPDP-2520Team-2520Draft-2520Final-2520Report-2520-2D-2520Redline-2520-2D-2520version-252016-2520February-25202019.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=JeJV68_XA0ovurRrcT2fYYDnJIRHwZ_8MSTwyFhaG1A&s=8u2KQZGE49aFP7yFTnfWTiuyyqvJR8V9PDy5tnqBRJU&e="><span style="color:#954F72">Final
Report for EPDP Phase 1</span></a>.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">The attached response is just 3 pages long, and reflects close collaboration with the IPC, listing five minor amendments to the Final Report in order to obtain BC and IPC support.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">We hope to discuss these items with you this week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">All the best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Margie Milam and Mark Svancarek</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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