<html><head></head><body>Hi,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Whoever told you email addresses are personal information was correct. Kudos to whoever that was.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">However, I did not read Ayden’s initial email to mean that he wishes that observer email addresses be published. He only asked that the list of NAMES of observers on the EPDP Team wiki be updated to include names that are currently missing.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Whether the names of observers need to be published, or not, is not the issue (although I’m not sure why it is so important that they are at all). However, if the standing practice is to publish them, the list might as well be complete.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 25, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class="">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On March 25, 2019 9:57:42 PM GMT+09:00, "Ayden Férdeline" <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="">Perhaps it is the default. However there are other ICANN org lists where I am able to view the entire subscriber list, if I too am subscribed, and I find this functionality and transparency to be very helpful.<br class=""/>
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<div class="">On Monday, March 25, 2019 1:56 PM, Mark Svancarek (CELA) <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" class="">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""/>
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<div class=""><p class="">Regarding the inability to see members list, UASG lists are also set up this way. I assumed it was default.<br class=""/>
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<div class=""><b class="">From:</b> Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" class="">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>> <b class="">On Behalf Of
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<div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Saturday, March 23, 2019 10:27<br class=""/>
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<div class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] EPDP Team mailing list page has incomplete list of subscribers<br class=""/>
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</p><p class=""><span class="">Thank you for raising this, staff will look into the matter and update you when adjustments have been made.</span><br class=""/>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 10:54 AM<br class=""/>
<b class="">To: </b>GNSO EPDP <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" class="">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br class=""/>
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<div class=""><p class="">I believe the <a title="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88574688" target="_blank" href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fpages%2Fviewpage.action%3FpageId%3D88574688&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C4cf4bc7b08994e34caea08d6af7a12c0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636889336179240494&sdata=C6voD0zoN%2BwbWapMVcaNQlInljmq%2BpHhNG348X%2FAjSw%3D&reserved=0" class="">
EPDP mailing list page</a>, which includes the names of observers, is incomplete. I note this because a recent email I sent to our list received a response directly from someone whose name is not listed on this webpage. I am unable to view the subscribers list,
because unusually, <a title="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" target="_blank" href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgnso-epdp-team&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C4cf4bc7b08994e34caea08d6af7a12c0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636889336179240494&sdata=7eNx2ylEXZDqKr%2FIy0TKz8lW4iSB7efmj8C763mIr0I%3D&reserved=0" class="">
this functionality has been disabled</a> in Mailman. We work in the open and our mailing list discussions should, of course, be accessible to everyone. But we should also be clear about whose inboxes are correspondence will be reaching. I'd like to request
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