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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Alex for this— the BC supports this approach.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Margie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Alex Deacon <alex@colevalleyconsulting.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 10:41 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Reminder - input on mind map and questions coming out of ICANN64 meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Marika, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here are the IPCs thoughts on your questions and how to best proceed with the Phase 2 work.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Method</span></u></b><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We believe the Phase 2 work should occur in two separate and concurrent work streams.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Work Stream 1 will focus on issues and questions related to the system for standardized access to non-public registration data, as defined in the EPDP charter and the overlapping EPDP
 Team Recommendation #3.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Work Stream 2 will focus on completing Phase 1 issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We also believe that the "legal small team" should continue to meet concurrent with the two work streams described above, with the focus of drafting questions to our legal
 resource specific to our phase 2 work and analyzing responses received (both existing and TBD).  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Additional thoughts</span><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Each work stream should set and work forward on its own schedule and work plan.  In fact we suggest that a separate report should be generated for each work stream.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Each work stream should schedule its own separate weekly 90min meeting.   Access to these meetings is open to all EPDP members (and alternates per the charter).
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">In a lesson learned from phase 1, consensus calls should happen early and often.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We suggest the first priority for this team is to answer the controllership and legal basis question for a system for Standardized for Standardized Access to Non-Public
 Registration Data, assuming a technical framework consistent with the TSG, and in a way that sufficiently addresses issues related to liability and risk mitigation with the goal of decreasing liability risks to Contracted Parties through the adoption of a
 system for Standardized Access.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Work Stream One Priorities</span><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Answer the gating question in Rec #3 - "Whether such a system should be adopted"
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Identify the various legitimate purposes for third parties to access registration data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Move on to answering the charter questions on Access (a), (b) and (c) in the order listed.  (We note that several of these questions have been answered in Phase 1 and also
 by the TSG work.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Work Stream Two Priorities</span><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Issues related to Legal vs Natural distinction as identified in Rec #17<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Potential additional purposes to facilitate ICANN's Office of the Chief Technology Officer as identified in Rec #2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Retention period issues and data collection as identified in Rec #15<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The rest.  We note that several issues in this work stream are dependent on legal advice (see below).
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Any large project with parallel work streams is subject to dependencies, however we believe it is important that the EPDP team avoid serializing its work and steer clear
 of (while still  recognizing) potential deadlocks in the process.</span><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Specifically, we appreciate the important legal issues related to controllership, risk and liability and agree that these questions must be addressed in a way
 that results in a win-win situation whereby risks are diminished for contracted parties and authenticated/accredited users have reliable access to requests for non-public registration data.  As above, we believe that this important discussion happen in parallel
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As a reminder, please share any input you may have on the phase 2 mind map (see attached)
<b>by Thursday 28 March</b>. In addition, your input is requested on the following questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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How should the team prioritize going forward?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m864373178202396839gmail-m-3800132559912069995msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
What next steps should be taken in relations to the dependencies identified?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m864373178202396839gmail-m-3800132559912069995msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
What should be the next steps in relation to the legal guidance to date?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m864373178202396839gmail-m-3800132559912069995msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
What is the target date for publication of the Initial Report that the EPDP Team is aiming to work toward?<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please share any feedback you may have with the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Caitlin, Berry and Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Marika Konings</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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