<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think it is appropriate to just brush off such criticism Chris by saying that we are entitled to our opinion. Board is in danger of advocating for a certain position and we raised this during our NCSG Board meetings multiple times. CEO intended from the beginning to facilitate access to WHOIS personal information. It is quite clear from the communications. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I invite you to act as a Board liaison and not a policymaker. If the Board thinks that disclosure should be done in a way it has envisioned, then what are we doing here? We can wrap up the show. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:55 AM Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris@disspain.uk">chris@disspain.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Verdana;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks Milton. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.<br><div><span id="gmail-m_7267653424398453053um_signature_marker_begin">
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 3 May 2019, at 17:52, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_7267653424398453053Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="gmail-m_7267653424398453053WordSection1" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Chris,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We appreciate your relaying of information about ICANN Corp’s interactions with the EDPB. We also appreciate your efforts to clarify certain positions.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">With this last message, however, I think you are in danger of crossing the line into advocacy of a particular position, and this is inappropriate. Under the ICANN bylaws the community develops policy and the board reviews and approves community developed policies with an eye to the larger picture. As a board liaison to the EPDP, your job is to serve as an information channel between the team and the board and to advise the EPDP team about any issues and concerns the board has that the EPDP might not be taking into account. It is not to advocate for a particular position.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">With regard to “UAM,” it is already established policy, as developed by phase 1 of the EPDP, that we are no longer talking about “<b><i>access</i></b>” models we are talking about<span class="gmail-m_7267653424398453053Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i>disclosure</i></b><span class="gmail-m_7267653424398453053Apple-converted-space"> </span>models. See Recommendation 3 of the final report, which has been approved by the Council. So we’d appreciate it if you get up to speed and adopt the approved and correct terminology.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Legitimately, the EC is motivated by BOTH the need to comply with its own law AND its desire for convenient disclosure processes. There is no inherent tension between these two as long as the disclosure processes are consistent with data protection principles. That will be a difficult job, so let us work it out. All stakeholders and views are represented here; the EC can and does speak for itself. So we don’t need your attempt to push a tendentious interpretation of their views upon us.<span class="gmail-m_7267653424398453053Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Finally, when you say this:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">….. that the EC’s view is that attempts to narrow ICANN’s purpose are counter-productive and the current wording needs to be revisited.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,78,121)">No…you are so far off base that it is laughable. The EC’s position on Purpose 2 could not be clearer. It was directly challenged in their comments. Taking out selective snippets and trying to twist their words in ways that conform to the position you are pushing is not helping this process at all. It is also, as I said before, not an appropriate thing for a board member to be doing. Please stay in your lane, and let the multistakeholder process work.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,78,121)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dr. Milton L Mueller<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Georgia Institute of Technology<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">School of Public Policy<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="https://internetgovernance.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">Internet Governance Project</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Gnso-epdp-team mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>
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