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<p>Hi Alex, <br>
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<p>I actually read the letter a bit differently. You are correct
that it stresses the need for such a model, particulararly for law
enforcement and government agencies, but it does not state that
such a model is per se compliant with GDPR, but rather that care
must be taken that the model is compliant. <br>
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<p>We cannot simply design any old model and call it compliant, the
model we design must comply with the principles I referred to in
my earlier mail to be compliant. <br>
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<p>I do not doubt we will be able to design such a compliant model
though. <br>
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<p>And believe me, I have talked to many at ICANN meetings and other
venues who still believe that access to the UAM will mean full
access. While I don't know whether such beliefs or hopes are also
held by members here (I sure hope not), it would be helpful if we
can agree on that as a basis.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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Thanks Chris for forwarding these letters to the team. And
thanks also to both ICANN org and the European Commission for
this important input and very helpful clarification.<br>
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The EC letter makes it very clear that the development of a
unified access model is not only vital, urgent and a matter of
priority, but also that such a model would be fully in line
with EU data protection rules (i.e., the GDPR). Clearly we
have a lot of work to do to attain this goal and our main
focus should be to chart a path (work plan, schedule, etc.) to
achieve it and then get to work. <br>
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In response to these letters: <br>
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First, the IPC agrees completely that "ICANN and the
contracted parties may enable access to and disclose
registration data upon request from a third party showing a
legitimate interest, provided both the controller - ICANN
and/or the contracted parties - and the third party have a
legal basis for such processing (see below)." <br>
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Second, we do not understand assertions that some are arguing
for an "all-access" WHOIS model or that there exists a set of
people who believe we can somehow return to unfettered WHOIS
access. Spending time arguing against positions that do not
exist in the ePDP is distracting and a waste of time. <br>
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Lastly, while we appreciate Volker’s suggestion to create
shortcuts to save time, we do not agree that issues related to
access for LEA should be prioritized ahead of issues related
to other third party legitimate interests. LEA have their own
processes for getting standardized access to data, which are
different from the private sector. IP and consumer protection
do not, and LEA access methods will not be particularly
relevant in addressing these issues. To expeditiously
complete a standardized access model, we should focus on
answering the questions as outlined in the charter - and build
a framework to accommodate standardized access for all
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