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    <p>Hi Alex, <br>
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    <p>I actually read the letter a bit differently. You are correct
      that it stresses the need for such a model, particulararly for law
      enforcement and government agencies, but it does not state that
      such a model is per se compliant with GDPR, but rather that care
      must be taken that the model is compliant. <br>
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    <p>We cannot simply design any old model and call it compliant, the
      model we design must comply with the principles I referred to in
      my earlier mail to be compliant. <br>
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    <p>I do not doubt we will be able to design such a compliant model
      though. <br>
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    <p>And believe me, I have talked to many at ICANN meetings and other
      venues who still believe that access to the UAM will mean full
      access. While I don't know whether such beliefs or hopes are also
      held by members here (I sure hope not), it would be helpful if we
      can agree on that as a basis.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.05.2019 um 22:55 schrieb Alex
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          Thanks Chris for forwarding these letters to the team.  And
          thanks also to both ICANN org and the European Commission for
          this important input and very helpful clarification.<br>
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          The EC letter makes it very clear that the development of a
          unified access model is not only vital, urgent and a matter of
          priority, but also that such a model would be fully in line
          with EU data protection rules (i.e., the GDPR).    Clearly we
          have a lot of work to do to attain this goal and our main
          focus should be to chart a path (work plan, schedule, etc.) to
          achieve it and then get to work.   <br>
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          In response to these letters: <br>
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          First, the IPC agrees completely that "ICANN and the
          contracted parties may enable access to and disclose
          registration data upon request from a third party showing a
          legitimate interest, provided both the controller - ICANN
          and/or the contracted parties - and the third party have a
          legal basis for such processing (see below)."    <br>
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          Second, we do not understand assertions that some are arguing
          for an "all-access" WHOIS model or that there exists a set of
          people who believe we can somehow return to unfettered WHOIS
          access. Spending time arguing against positions that do not
          exist in the ePDP is distracting and a waste of time. <br>
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          Lastly, while we appreciate Volker’s suggestion to create
          shortcuts to save time, we do not agree that issues related to
          access for LEA should be prioritized ahead of issues related
          to other third party legitimate interests. LEA have their own
          processes for getting standardized access to data, which are
          different from the private sector. IP and consumer protection
          do not, and LEA access methods will not be particularly
          relevant in addressing these issues.  To expeditiously
          complete a standardized access model, we should focus on
          answering the questions as outlined in the charter - and build
          a framework to accommodate standardized access for all
          legitimate interests in compliance with the law.</div>
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                <div>As you will know, on 26 April Göran Marby wrote to
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