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    <p>Obviously, according to the European Court of Justice, all
      information that in combination with other pieces of information
      could lead to the identification of the data subject is also
      personal information, so that differentiation is moot. (See:
      IP-Addresses in <a
href="http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=184668&pageIndex=0&doclang=en&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=1116945"
        target="_blank">Case 582/14 – Patrick Breyer v Germany</a>)<br>
    </p>
    <p>The only scenario where nonpublic information is not public
      information is when the data cannot lead to the identification of
      the data subject, but that cannot usually be seen on its face. For
      example the commonly used role "Domain Manager" could be personal
      information if someone on that company website is listed as such,
      the company only has one staff member in that role or other
      factors and data sources allow the identification or the ability
      to build a personal profile.</p>
    <p>So yes, even legal entities may have used data in their
      registation data sets that can be considered personal information,
      which is why contracted parties have argued for no differentiation
      between entity types. Ultimately, the type is irrelevant, the data
      used is relevant.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.05.2019 um 16:24 schrieb Hadia
      Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I would not use the
            term " disclosure/access
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">to
              personal information</span>" but would rather use the term
            " disclosure/access
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">to
              nonpublic registration data</span>". The reason for this
            is that by definition, some of the redacted data is not
            personal information, but was redacted because it was
            thought that in combination with other pieces of information
            it could lead to identifying the data subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hadia <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                Gnso-epdp-team [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 08, 2019 11:39 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] [Ext] RE: For your
                review - Phase 2 Draft Approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Apologies,
            it looks like the pdf conversion got rid of the ticks. We’ve
            replaced them with ‘X’ in the attached version.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Caitlin,
            Berry and Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="color:black">"Mueller, Milton L"
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"><milton@gatech.edu></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 15:35<br>
              <b>To: </b>Marika Konings
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">"gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team@icann.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: For your review - Phase 2 Draft
              Approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Looks like Janis and
            staff have been busy!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I have a question
            about Slide 7. There are no “X’s” or ticks in the columns
            for WS 1 and WS 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">So I can’t tell what
            this means. Are we proposing (I hope) that WS1 meets on
            Tuesdays and WS2 meets on Thursdays? Or is this still
            open-ended?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">--MM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-epdp-team
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org></a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 8, 2019 2:07 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-epdp-team] For your review - Phase
                2 Draft Approach</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sending
              on behalf of Janis Karklins</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear EPDP
            Team,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Following
            last week’s meeting, the leadership team and staff support
            have worked together on developing a draft approach for
            tackling phase 2. We hope this strikes a balance between the
            different views expressed and will form the basis for a
            detailed work plan with concrete milestones and
            deliverables. You will find attached a couple of slides that
            outline our current thinking in further detail, but here are
            some points I want to emphasize:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt">This is a draft approach for
              discussion and review. Based on your input prior and our
              discussion during next week’s meeting, we will further
              iterate and detail our approach, the proposed work plan
              and accompanying timeline. This draft is for discussion
              that, hopefully, will lead to a consensual agreement.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt">For the purpose of our exercise
              it is important to use definitions and terminology with
              the same understanding. We propose to develop and use
              working definitions without prejudice  to consensual
              outcome. Final definitions can only be developed once the
              Team has finalized its work and agreed on its
              recommendations.
            </span><o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt">Based on the Team’s feedback in
              relation to the request to form a small team to engage
              with ICANN Org, I suggest to keep a plenary setting which
              will avoid creating a separate structure and ensure that
              everyone is part of discussion. Nevertheless, as this work
              on obtaining legal certainty is ongoing, I would propose
              that we deal with the charter questions and list of issues
              identified on slide 5 in an agnostic manner.  In other
              words, we should refrain at the outset to deliberate on
              whether or not a System for Standardized Disclosure should
              be centralized or not, but rather we should focus on the
              commonalities and where needed identify that
              differentiation may be required depending on which model
              is ultimately determined to be legally compliant with GDPR
              and workable. I also expect that this approach would help
              inform the engagement of ICANN org and DPAs.
            </span><o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt">I appreciate that some of you may
              consider the timeline ambitious, but I’ve heard from
              almost everyone that the work on a System for Standardized
              Disclosure is a priority and as such I am committed to
              setting a target date for us to work towards. This will
              require your support and dedication. I am pretty confident
              I can count on that.
            </span><o:p></o:p></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I look
            forward to receiving your feedback and would like to
            encourage you to focus your input on what, why and how
            things could or should be done differently, instead of
            simply saying that something cannot be acceptable or should
            not be done. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Janis
            Karklins</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Marika Konings</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Vice President,
              Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
              for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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