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<p>Obviously, according to the European Court of Justice, all
information that in combination with other pieces of information
could lead to the identification of the data subject is also
personal information, so that differentiation is moot. (See:
IP-Addresses in <a
href="http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=184668&pageIndex=0&doclang=en&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=1116945"
target="_blank">Case 582/14 – Patrick Breyer v Germany</a>)<br>
</p>
<p>The only scenario where nonpublic information is not public
information is when the data cannot lead to the identification of
the data subject, but that cannot usually be seen on its face. For
example the commonly used role "Domain Manager" could be personal
information if someone on that company website is listed as such,
the company only has one staff member in that role or other
factors and data sources allow the identification or the ability
to build a personal profile.</p>
<p>So yes, even legal entities may have used data in their
registation data sets that can be considered personal information,
which is why contracted parties have argued for no differentiation
between entity types. Ultimately, the type is irrelevant, the data
used is relevant.<br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.05.2019 um 16:24 schrieb Hadia
Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I would not use the
term " disclosure/access
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">to
personal information</span>" but would rather use the term
" disclosure/access
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">to
nonpublic registration data</span>". The reason for this
is that by definition, some of the redacted data is not
personal information, but was redacted because it was
thought that in combination with other pieces of information
it could lead to identifying the data subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hadia <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Gnso-epdp-team [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 08, 2019 11:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] [Ext] RE: For your
review - Phase 2 Draft Approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Apologies,
it looks like the pdf conversion got rid of the ticks. We’ve
replaced them with ‘X’ in the attached version.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Caitlin,
Berry and Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">"Mueller, Milton L"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"><milton@gatech.edu></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 15:35<br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">"gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: For your review - Phase 2 Draft
Approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Looks like Janis and
staff have been busy!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I have a question
about Slide 7. There are no “X’s” or ticks in the columns
for WS 1 and WS 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">So I can’t tell what
this means. Are we proposing (I hope) that WS1 meets on
Tuesdays and WS2 meets on Thursdays? Or is this still
open-ended?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">--MM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-epdp-team
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 8, 2019 2:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-epdp-team] For your review - Phase
2 Draft Approach</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sending
on behalf of Janis Karklins</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear EPDP
Team,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Following
last week’s meeting, the leadership team and staff support
have worked together on developing a draft approach for
tackling phase 2. We hope this strikes a balance between the
different views expressed and will form the basis for a
detailed work plan with concrete milestones and
deliverables. You will find attached a couple of slides that
outline our current thinking in further detail, but here are
some points I want to emphasize:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">This is a draft approach for
discussion and review. Based on your input prior and our
discussion during next week’s meeting, we will further
iterate and detail our approach, the proposed work plan
and accompanying timeline. This draft is for discussion
that, hopefully, will lead to a consensual agreement.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For the purpose of our exercise
it is important to use definitions and terminology with
the same understanding. We propose to develop and use
working definitions without prejudice to consensual
outcome. Final definitions can only be developed once the
Team has finalized its work and agreed on its
recommendations.
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Based on the Team’s feedback in
relation to the request to form a small team to engage
with ICANN Org, I suggest to keep a plenary setting which
will avoid creating a separate structure and ensure that
everyone is part of discussion. Nevertheless, as this work
on obtaining legal certainty is ongoing, I would propose
that we deal with the charter questions and list of issues
identified on slide 5 in an agnostic manner. In other
words, we should refrain at the outset to deliberate on
whether or not a System for Standardized Disclosure should
be centralized or not, but rather we should focus on the
commonalities and where needed identify that
differentiation may be required depending on which model
is ultimately determined to be legally compliant with GDPR
and workable. I also expect that this approach would help
inform the engagement of ICANN org and DPAs.
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">I appreciate that some of you may
consider the timeline ambitious, but I’ve heard from
almost everyone that the work on a System for Standardized
Disclosure is a priority and as such I am committed to
setting a target date for us to work towards. This will
require your support and dedication. I am pretty confident
I can count on that.
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I look
forward to receiving your feedback and would like to
encourage you to focus your input on what, why and how
things could or should be done differently, instead of
simply saying that something cannot be acceptable or should
not be done. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Janis
Karklins</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Marika Konings</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Vice President,
Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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