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Hi, Janis,</div>
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I am still having trouble with this: </div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important">"The request of third parties for access to full set or subset of non-public gTLD domain name registration data through disclosure policy that is fully compliant with GDPR and developed
as a result of the EPDP."</span><br>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important">This definition seems to be straining to get the word "access" into the definition even though the substance of the definition renders the word meaningless. Please do the following
experiment. Delete the words "<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">access to full set or subset of</span>" from this definition. This is what you get: </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">"The request of third parties for non-public gTLD domain name
registration data through disclosure policy that is fully compliant with GDPR and developed as a result of the EPDP."</span><br>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">In other words, the definition works fine without the word
access. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">So let's be frank and realistic. We have a solid legal basis
for talking about access for data subjects and none for access for third parties. Ergo, there is no reason to include third party requests in the definition of "access" unless we are trying to leverage the definition to lead to a particular policy outcome. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; display: inline !important"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">I respectfully suggest, again, that we stop wasting time trying
to impose idiosyncratic and politically motivated definitions on the process, and move straight on to having the policy debate about what kind of disclosure processes and rights third parties are going to get. That, ultimately, is all that matters. The definitional
stuff is just spinning our wheels with political spin and positioning. </span></span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-epdp-team] Proposed working definitions of the frequently used terms during the EPDP Phase 2</font>
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<div>Pls see attached the Proposed working definitions of the frequently used terms during the EPDP Phase 2. It takes to account comments made by members and attempts to reconcile divergence of views on interpretation of some terms.</div>
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<div>Pls consider this proposal with clear understanding that these are not legal definitions, but only explanatory texts for the use of EPDP Phase 2 only.</div>
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<div>I hope you will find proposal as one you can live with. My wish is to endorse this understanding and move further with discussions on the outline of SSAD.</div>
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<div>Thank you</div>
<div>JK</div>
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