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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear EPDP Team:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Below, please find the notes and action items from today’s EPDP Team Meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As a reminder, the next EPDP Team Meeting will be Thursday, 25 July at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #11</span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thursday, 18 July 2019</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> at 14.00 UTC</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action Items</span></u></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Support Staff to propose a new grouping of use cases with the help of Milton, Chris, Margie, and Brian by next <b>Thursday, 25 July</b>. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In light of today’s conversation, Chris Lewis-Evans to seek the guidance of the previously-consulted DPO, with the goal of fine tuning the overarching LEA purpose. Following the receipt of guidance, Chris Lewis-Evans to propose modifications accordingly. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Alan Greenberg to draft proposed legal question regarding the trustworthiness of the requestor and send to Leon and EPDP Leadership.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>EPDP Team to finish reviewing the LEA use case offline, beginning at subcategory g and identify questions to the list in writing (if any) by <b>Tuesday, 23 July</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chris Lewis-Evans, with the help of GAC colleagues (as applicable) to consider any questions identified and propose corresponding edits/clarifications to the use case.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes </span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>These high-level notes are designed to help the EPDP Team navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/x/ZwPVBQ.</span></i><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #11</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Proposed Agenda</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Attendance will be taken from Zoom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Remember to mute your microphones upon entry to Zoom, which is typically the first icon on the left on the bottom toolbar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Please state your name before speaking for transcription purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Please remember to review your SOIs on a regular basis and update as needed. Updates are required to be shared with the EPDP Team<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Kristina Rosette no longer works for Amazon Registry but will continue representing the RySG until the RySG finds another representative<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirmation of agenda (Chair)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Proposal to begin by discussing a possible consolidation of the use cases into a small number of cases. Before the Team ranks the cases, the cases should be consolidated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Chair proposal to discuss this proposal under Agenda Item 4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>3.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Welcome and housekeeping issues (Chair) (10 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Update from Legal Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Phase 2 Legal Committee met on Tuesday for the first time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The P2 LC established its working methods, which are the same for Phase 1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The LC began by reviewing draft legal questions submitted for SSAD (Priority 1 work)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Some LC members volunteered to consolidate similarly-worded questions. Some questions were identified as being too early in the Team’s work to ask now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Team comments/questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>With respect to prioritization of questions, some questions may be more urgent in the Team’s current work. How is budget begin considered - is this a potential issue for the number of questions the Team could send to outside counsel?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Answer: yes, the budget is also being considered in the course of the LC’s work. Once the LC has a better idea of how much assistance from outside counsel is needed, there could be a request for additional budget.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>4.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Use Cases Ranking Exercise (10 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Overview of use cases submitted: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/-KCjBg"><span style='color:#954F72'>https://community.icann.org/x/-KCjBg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The NCSG sent a document to the list with a proposal for how to group the use cases, noting a fundamental distinction b/w criminal and civil law cases where policy recommendations will likely be the same. For criminal cases, a law enforcement agency would be requesting the information, while for a civil case, it would be a non-state actor or private party requesting the information. Additionally, random forms of validation could be grouped together; these all share a distinctive pattern where information is being requested for validation purposes. The last two categories are (1) requesting additional information to contact the registrant and (2) stand-alone cases like UDRP/URS and maintaining the domain name registration by the registrant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Team Feedback:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There is value in working through a single use case from start to finish - if the cases are grouped, how would this work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The idea would be to make the cases more general and then look at the fields one by one. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Grouping cases does make sense; perhaps it would help to look at an exemplary case and see where differences need to be pointed out. Group one may just be called “crime” instead of law enforcement as other parties, outside of law enforcement, investigate crime. Additionally, the SSAC cases need to be added to the crime use case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This grouping is well done and will be beneficial. The Team needs to be careful it doesn’t inadvertently miss anything by grouping cases. For example, a national cert is not included here. It may be helpful to rely on one case from the group rather than a more broadened case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Do not agree with this categorization. For example, the consumer protection use case may be associated with a law enforcement agency, but it may not be. Fraud prevention may occur through consumers reporting incidents, rather than victims.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Do not agree with this approach; the previous support staff proposed grouping makes more sense. In particular, there are categorizations within the groupings that do not makes sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Agree that support staff’s categorization makes more sense than this proposal. What efficiencies is the Team gaining by proceeding with this grouping? There is value to consider use cases in grouping 3 and 4.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Team has more cases than time. Some cases do have commonalities. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Agree with the concept of grouping because spending time evaluating similar use cases is a waste of time. It’s not useful to capture all of the unique elements for the use cases into one overarching use case. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The concept of grouping can introduce efficiencies if the group is thoughtful about it. Primary concern with the NCSG proposal - LEA should be separated out from other quasi-criminal use cases identified. LEA has a different status and has different needs. There is value, independent of that, for the EPDP Team to first complete the LEA use cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Focus on principles rather than single use cases. There is value in singling out certain cases, but the exercise of consolidating the cases will have the Team review all of the cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Team will likely ultimately combine several use cases. Three groupings: one from support staff; one from NCSG; one from BC. Proposal to begin with support staff’s grouping.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Have heard support for the idea of grouping. One issue the Team seems to agree on: separate the LEA cases and prioritize them. One reason to separate the LEA cases and non-state actors is that the balancing test will be different. Combating crime is too broad of a category. This grouping should be much more explicitly focused. If the Team could make progress on the LEA case first, agree with previous point that it will be optically important.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Team needs a grouping and then to review to see if anything missing. Is the civil law grouping “civil law” or “quasi-law enforcement by civil entities”? This needs to be made more clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There needs to be a distinction b/w who is making the request and what the entity is doing with the data. The entities may be doing the same type of work with the data.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Team is looking at the third-party purpose - the purpose is to contact someone about a crime or a civil wrong or private harm. If it’s about the purpose and what is being investigated rather than user groups, this could work. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There is a difference b/w criminal investigations and investigations by people who are trying to assist law enforcement, and that will have a material effect on if data can be released or not. Having a badge and a gun will make a difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Chair proposal to move forward: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action: Staff to propose grouping with the help of a few volunteers from the Team. This grouping can be brought to the attention of the Team by next week or the week after. In the meantime, however, the Team will continue working on open cases such as law enforcement. Review a representative case and then identify if there are significant differences that would result in different responses to the template and discuss in the course of review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Staff already made a first cut. If volunteers can provide additional information on why that grouping doesn’t make sense, support staff can make a grouping. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm results of ranking exercise<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo10;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm leadership proposed order and next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>5.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Use case – second reading: </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111386876/Use%20Case%20-%20GAC%20LEA1%20-%207%20July%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1562565249000&api=v2"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>Investigation of criminal activity against a victim in the jurisdiction of the investigating EU LEA requesting data from a non-local data controller</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> (30 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Proposed methodology: Chris Lewis-Evans to introduce the changes to the document, and then review the contents for each category.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Last week, the Team discussed separating safeguards to automatic and manual safeguards. The disclosing party must define and perform a balancing test. Because this is a law enforcement use case, the system must allow for some form of confidentiality while the investigation is ongoing. The manual section is new, which is why there are a lot of changes. Similar to the other use cases discussed, only data requested can be disclosed, and only new data (not historic data) can be disclosed. Please review the red-lined changes to see the specific changes in detail.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Team will now review the document section by section and consider this as a final reading of the case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Team Feedback:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Comments on overarching purpose (a):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The second half of the overarching purpose is extremely broad and capable of justifying anything. National security, in particular, provides a very broad application. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Support the language as is - broad purposes are good here until we receive legal advice. This is sufficiently encompassing and specific.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Activities associated with certs may be lost - that activity would now fall under here. The primary issue with government certs, it is not sworn law enforcement. An example like this shows it is helpful to keep the language broad.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Purpose makes sense. NCSG’s approach narrows the purpose too much. Propose keeping as is and seeking legal advice on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There may be a government entity that investigates non-criminal activity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In reviewing the purpose, it was taken to a governmental DPO who agreed this purpose was OK. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action: Chris to go back to DPO to answer and finetune the overarching purpose in light of today’s conversation and propose modifications accordingly. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This exercise is helpful to show potential groupings. Is it better to start with a narrow case and then expand to additional use cases, or vice versa? As we go through this exercise, it is important to consider how we go from this list to do the grouping as a practical exercise.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>It is difficult to review these use cases line by line when Team members are approaching the cases differently - some are requesting the purpose to be narrow, while others believe it should be broad. It will be difficult to go through the cases line by line until the Team agrees if the use case should be broad or narrowly focused. For this use case - the key is the action is outside the jurisdiction - this is a complicating factor and the Team needs to spend some time thinking about it. The victim may be in the jx of the LEA, requesting data from a controller who is outside this jx, and the data subject may also be in a different jx.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The purpose of this exercise is not to finetune each use case to perfection, but rather to capture commonalities and see if they can be translated into policy recommendations. For example, with respect to the overarching purpose, that will be law enforcement requesting disclosure of data. In a policy recommendation, it is unlikely every specific situation can be taken up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>With respect to the International Budapest Convention on Crime - it deals with trademark and copyright infringement, et. al. The use case here is not very broad because of everything the Budapest Convention covers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo12;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category b: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Why does this only refer to a secondary victim and not to identification of a criminal or the primary victim?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The explanation in b does not seem to align with the overarching purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The concept of necessity seems lost here - why is the data from the contracted party necessary to achieve the purpose? This needs to be changed because it is not considering necessity in the correct way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>With respect to necessity, it is not answered in the above-suggested way. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The primary victim is not identified b/c LEA would be conversing directly with the victim; would need the registration data for the secondary victim.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The request needs to be justifiable and reasonable so that the data is reasonably necessary. Just because something is easy does not make it legal. Ease does not equal necessity. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Perhaps the question should be changed - why is disclosure reasonable and justifiably necessary or something similar?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Ease is not the correct word as ease may equate to practicality. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category c<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Under category c, it seems like it should allude to redacted data elements that are necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>A reason why all of the data elements are included here is partly b/c it is preferable and practical to go to one source for the data.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In this use case, would the LEA be requesting all data every time? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>No, some cases may only need a subset of information.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The requesting entity should not be requesting all of the data all of the time; it should be limited and specific.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category d - lawful basis:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In this particular case, EU LEA access is asking for data from a controller outside the EU. In this instance, there is a different legal basis between the requestor and the requestee.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>No disagreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Should the Team think of non-EU asking EU law enforcement, and vice versa?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>If a UK law enforcement was to ask another EU law enforcement, I would be acting under my own law enforcement, but it doesn’t make a different to an Irish law enforcement. The lawful basis of the Irish company would be 6(1)(f). Realistically, that would also work for non-EU requesting to EU.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Can you investigate on behalf of a victim not in your jx? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>That may be the case, but realistically, you need to ensure you have your own lawful basis in your country.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category e - supporting info to determine lawful basis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>No comments<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category f - Safeguards to requestor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Why is the first sub-bullet there?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There may be an assumption that we are using protocol to make a request.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This use case is not asking for all of the data the registry or registrar holds. If it were, it would likely be under a court order, and would definitely be outside of automation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Category g - Safeguards for entity disclosing the data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The penultimate bullet - entity disclosing the data needs to perform a balancing test with the right to object and erase - we may need to flesh out how that will work. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The balancing test under 6(1)(f) is very hard to automate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The last bullet point - there may be instances where the entity cannot disclose, so this should not be a must.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This is a topic the Team hasn’t delved into comprehensively - when the data subject has a right to know who is requesting their data and when the requests need to be held confidential. This topic needs to be fleshed out more.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Do not see how a balancing test can be automated and very uncomfortable with this assumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This use case has a particularity to deal with a balancing test for a 6(1)(f) legal basis. It is necessary to demonstrate safeguards for the balancing test. This is the first iteration of what GAC could come up with but do understand the concerns regarding the automation of the balancing test. The important issue here is that we need safeguards for the process of the balancing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This needs to be a policy consideration of how the balancing test can be applied ahead of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>One question that may need legal advice is to what extent the balancing test can rely on the trustworthiness of the requestor. The whole concept of automating these processes is through authentication/accreditation of users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action: Alan Greenberg to draft proposed legal question regarding the trustworthiness of the requestor and send to Leon and Support Staff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Cannot assume that the balancing test needs to be manual in every instance - legal advice would be helpful. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Team Members should look at the case starting from g down and propose any questions in writing by Tuesday, 23 July.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Start examination beginning with g to the next call. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo14;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Consider concerns / issues expressed on the mailing list prior to the meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo14;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Preliminary agreement on use case<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo14;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm next steps, if any<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:49.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>6.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Use case – first reading: </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111386876/SSAC%20Crime-Abuse%20Investigation%20Use%20Case%20-%2011%20July%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1562865007000&api=v2"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>Investigation of criminal activity where domain names are used. Typical specific example: phishing attack</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> (60 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo15;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Introduction of use case (SSAC)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo15;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Input from EPDP Team – questions, concerns, proposed modifications<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo15;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>7.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Any other business (5 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:49.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo16;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Priority 2 small team meetings update</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:76.0pt'><span style='color:black'>a)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Accuracy and WHOIS ARS (see </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1pS9Pibanj-2DHp6LztZpeERtxdoLsnp4y-5F-2Ddo0vU5VJuw_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=pbsJr1ocOSL1B74Z5Ur_LfAiP3s-cbHe4ejVDzEFXs8&s=kLqOU9RTOp9A1LN3z5Pda-bpqJtZcWx6q9I-wWmF9HQ&e="><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pS9Pibanj-Hp6LztZpeERtxdoLsnp4y_-do0vU5VJuw/edit</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'> [docs.google.com]</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:76.0pt'><span style='color:black'>b)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Input received on other priority 2 items from RrSG (see </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2019-June/002174.html"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2019-June/002174.html</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:76.0pt'><span style='color:black'>c)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Leadership to recommend next steps via mailing list</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:49.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo17;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Council request for input on org letter requesting clarification on Data Accuracy and Phase-2 (see </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_default_files_file_field-2Dfile-2Dattach_marby-2Dto-2Ddrazek-2D21jun19-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=pbsJr1ocOSL1B74Z5Ur_LfAiP3s-cbHe4ejVDzEFXs8&s=Lic0Z6B_3Pa6P4p1IjugNGKBW_Ugyv2frXs5vLBVXZA&e="><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/marby-to-drazek-21jun19-en.pdf</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'> [gnso.icann.org]</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>). EPDP Team to provide input on the mailing list. Confirm deadline for input. </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:31.0pt;text-indent:-31.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>8.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Wrap and confirm next EPDP Team meeting on Thursday 25 July at 14.00 UTC (5 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:49.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l9 level2 lfo18;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm action items</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:49.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l9 level2 lfo18;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm questions for ICANN Org, if any</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>