<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all,<div class="">I think it does not harm to let the Board know that it will be difficult to design a model not knowing whether the Board will endorse it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Based on that, I would even go further and ask the Board to check with the Org and legal in particular so that we can rely on the answer being endorsed by those, too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, I do think that we need to give an indication by when we expect a Board response. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Thomas</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 10.10.2019 um 08:32 schrieb J <<a href="mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com" class="">karklinsj@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hi all </span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Can’t we simply conclude that absence of answer will not allow to pursue focused discussion on implementable and scalable model but rather continue exploring different options and failing swiftly respond to the assign task. </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Thanks for considering more positive language</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Jk<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">On Oct 9, 2019, at 23:35, Mark Svancarek (CELA) via Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">I still think it’s better not to close the letter with a threat or even a prediction. The Board and Org know the critical importance of giving us a decision answering this letter. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">We suggest removing the final sentence. The rest of the letter is great.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">/marksv<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>James M. Bladel<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:07 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-epdp-team] EPDP Homework: Updated Draft of Board Letter<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Colleagues –<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Regarding the draft letter to the Board presented on Tuesday, some members were uncomfortable with the wording of the last sentence. Since that call, I’ve been working with our Board liaisons (Becky and Chris) to make some edits. The resulting Revised Draft copied below. To expedite your review, please note that only the final sentence has changed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Thanks—<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">J.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class="">-------------<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light"; color: rgb(0, 176, 80);" class="">James Bladel<o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class="">GoDaddy<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Letter from EPDP 2 to ICANN Board on Standardized System for Access/Disclosure (SSAD)</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">To: ICANN Board<br class="">CC: Goran<br class="">CC: GNSO Council</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear ICANN Board,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We are writing to you at the suggestion of the EPDP 2 Board liaisons. The working group is at a critical junction which requires clear input from the Board in order to further our work to produce realistic, timely, implementable policy recommendations. Specifically, we seek to understand the Board’s position on the scope of operational responsibility and level of liability (related to decision-making on disclosure of non-public registration data) they are willing to accept on behalf of the ICANN organization along with any prerequisites that may need to be met in order to do so.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Our goal is to avoid policy recommendations that cement the current situation, where requests for non-public registration data are handled on a case-by-case basis by the registry/registrar in a non-standardized and decentralized manner. We are considering several models for a Standardized System for Access and Disclosure (SSAD), including (but not limited to) the Unified Access Model (UAM) developed by the Technical Study Group. All of the proposed “centralized” SSAD models presume that ICANN will assume an operational role, and, depending upon the model, some degree of responsibility and liability for decisions to disclose non-public data to a third-party requester. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">In some models, ICANN (or its designee) would approve accrediting bodies, or function as an accrediting body themselves. Some proposed models establish ICANN (or its designee) as the entity that will conduct an initial validation of disclosure requests prior to relaying this request to the appropriate registry or registrar. Other proposed models would require ICANN to play a larger role, either endorsing the legitimacy of the request, or issuing a determination of whether or not the registrar or registry should or must disclose the non-public data to the third party requester. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We recognize that our questions are clouded by the uncertainty associated with constructing a model that is compliant with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and other privacy laws. We are also aware of the work of ICANN org (via the “Strawberry Team”) to engage with data protection authorities to better understand the liability involved in decisions to disclose non-public registration data. As noted above, our goal is to produce realistic, timely, and implementable policy recommendations, and our work requires Board input on the level of involvement and amount of liability they are willing to assume for ICANN org, along with any prerequisites that may need to be met in order to do so. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Absent that input, the EPDP work must abandon the centralized SSAD model, and shift its focus to policy recommendations aimed at improving the existing distributed model in which each registry and registrar independently evaluates, applies their own balancing test, and responds to queries on a case by case basis.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">EPDP Phase 2 working group members</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">Gnso-epdp-team mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a></span><br class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy</a>) and the website Terms of Service (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</a>). 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