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Hi Janis,
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<div>I think our emails crossed paths as they were delivered to my inbox one minute apart. </div>
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<div>As my suggested edit is aimed at better achieving the stated intent of the drafters of the letter, I encourage the team to consider it before finalizing the letter. Thank you.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 10, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you all for flexibility. The letter will be sent to the Board with proposed two edits.
<div>5 questions to the ICANN Org will not be attached.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:04 PM Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@board.icann.org">becky.burr@board.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">just to be clear, I was also fine with the last sentence James included in the draft</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 1:26 PM Anderson, Marc via Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James, thank you for taking this on and the proposed edits.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For edit 1 – I prefer the original text, but if the proposed re-write addresses the concern raised, then I can live with it.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For edit 2 – Considering the proposed new version comes from Becky, I’m inclined to support that version.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do have a follow-up question for Janis. At the top of the call I think I heard that you will include the questions proposed for ICANN Org with the letter to the ICANN Board. Are you referring to the 5 questions proposed in this Google
document? <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1N66JcJ-5F1C9agknQGfJ22BG2L564hBS-2Dw3k8ItZIZ-5Few_edit&d=DwMFaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=hT2un2od0mASc1f2Fe8YKCeW4A5EFMZOorCbixw0rMs&s=p2gZ36bJfWKQedepVGE6apQn4lEebiFwHYFXel9_D7s&e=" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N66JcJ_1C9agknQGfJ22BG2L564hBS-w3k8ItZIZ_ew/edit</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have some concerns as while the proposed letter to the ICANN Board is drafted to stand on its own, these questions proposed to ICANN Org are not. Sending them along with the letter may be somewhat confusing and distract from the purpose
of the letter.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marc <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] EPDP Homework: Updated Draft of Board Letter<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Colleagues – <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Following our call today, I have consolidated feedback in to two proposed edits (below). Per Janis’ call for silent approval, please note any objections to these changes as quickly as possible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">J.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">_______________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">EDIT 1 -<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The final sentence of the second paragraph. Replace:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">All of the proposed “centralized” SSAD models presume that ICANN will assume an operational role, and, depending upon the model, some degree of responsibility and liability for decisions
to disclose non-public data to a third-party requester. </span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">With:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">All of the proposed “centralized” SSAD models presume that ICANN will assume some sort of operational role. In some models, ICANN could assume varying degrees of responsibility
and liability for decisions to disclose non-public data to third-party requesters.</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">EDIT 2 – <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The final sentence of the letter. Replace:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Absent that input, the EPDP work must abandon the centralized SSAD model, and shift its focus to policy recommendations aimed at improving the existing distributed model in which
each registry and registrar independently evaluates, applies their own balancing test, and responds to queries on a case by case basis.</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">With:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Absent that input, the EPDP must shift its focus to policy recommendations aimed at improving the existing distributed model in which each registry and registrar independently evaluates,
applies its own balancing test, and responds to queries on a case by case basis.</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">"James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 15:07<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>EPDP Homework: Updated Draft of Board Letter<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Colleagues –</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Regarding the draft letter to the Board presented on Tuesday, some members were uncomfortable with the wording of the last sentence. Since that call, I’ve been working with our Board liaisons
(Becky and Chris) to make some edits. The resulting Revised Draft copied below. To expedite your review, please note that only the final sentence has changed.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Thanks—</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">J.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue Light";color:rgb(0,176,80)">James Bladel</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue Light"">GoDaddy</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Letter from EPDP 2 to ICANN Board on Standardized System for Access/Disclosure (SSAD)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">To: ICANN Board<br>
CC: Goran<br>
CC: GNSO Council</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Dear ICANN Board,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">We are writing to you at the suggestion of the EPDP 2 Board liaisons. The working group is at a critical junction which requires clear input
from the Board in order to further our work to produce realistic, timely, implementable policy recommendations. Specifically, we seek to understand the Board’s position on the scope of operational responsibility and level of liability (related to decision-making
on disclosure of non-public registration data) they are willing to accept on behalf of the ICANN organization along with any prerequisites that may need to be met in order to do so.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Our goal is to avoid policy recommendations that cement the current situation, where requests for non-public registration data are handled
on a case-by-case basis by the registry/registrar in a non-standardized and decentralized manner. We are considering several models for a Standardized System for Access and Disclosure (SSAD), including (but not limited to) the Unified Access Model (UAM) developed
by the Technical Study Group. All of the proposed “centralized” SSAD models presume that ICANN will assume an operational role, and, depending upon the model, some degree of responsibility and liability for decisions to disclose non-public data to a third-party
requester. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">In some models, ICANN (or its designee) would approve accrediting bodies, or function as an accrediting body themselves. Some proposed models
establish ICANN (or its designee) as the entity that will conduct an initial validation of disclosure requests prior to relaying this request to the appropriate registry or registrar. Other proposed models would require ICANN to play a larger role, either
endorsing the legitimacy of the request, or issuing a determination of whether or not the registrar or registry should or must disclose the non-public data to the third party requester. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">We recognize that our questions are clouded by the uncertainty associated with constructing a model that is compliant with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and other privacy
laws. We are also aware of the work of ICANN org (via the “Strawberry Team”) to engage with data protection authorities to better understand the liability involved in decisions to disclose non-public registration data. As noted above, our goal is to produce
realistic, timely, and implementable policy recommendations, and our work requires Board input on the level of involvement and amount of liability they are willing to assume for ICANN org, along with any prerequisites that may need to be met in order to do
so. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Absent that input, the EPDP work must abandon the centralized SSAD model, and shift its focus to policy recommendations aimed at improving the existing distributed model in which each
registry and registrar independently evaluates, applies their own balancing test, and responds to queries on a case by case basis.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Thank you,<br>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">EPDP Phase 2 working group members</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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