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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear EPPD Team:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please find below the notes and action items from today’s EPDP Team meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The next EPDP Team meeting will be <b>Tuesday, 22 October</b> at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #25</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thursday, 17 October 2019 at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Support Staff to update the text of the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAEBygpoddKOJOfb1whMtaQHcik856aZZc9BoDk392E/edit">Accreditation Building Block</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ci-wvA1P9yoKjJ5DPeRbZ5FOHL2D8ExGsN2SV9TPELM/edit">Financial Sustainability Block</a> based on today’s discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>EPDP Team to provide additional edits in the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAEBygpoddKOJOfb1whMtaQHcik856aZZc9BoDk392E/edit">Accreditation Building Block</a> re: implementation guidance and definitions by COB tomorrow, <b>Friday, 18 October</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>EPDP Team to provide additional edits from today’s conversation to the <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ci-wvA1P9yoKjJ5DPeRbZ5FOHL2D8ExGsN2SV9TPELM/edit">Financial Sustainability Block</a> by <b>Friday, 18 October</b>.</span><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></u></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>EPDP Volunteers needed to propose initial text for <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eZBzRclRtEXPp1EScDfftnfnv9tneD7ovxmGe84BQz4/edit">Building Block M – Terms of Use/Disclosure Agreements/Privacy Policies</a> by <b>Monday, 21 October</b>.</span><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></u></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Confirmation of agenda (Chair)</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Welcome and housekeeping issues (Chair) (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Update from legal committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/k5ICBw"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Status of building blocks</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EOZY0oNiBrtAOZeka3LCMwyMiaGjSJLVDTcyVl4YnHY/edit"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Accreditation</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> (building block f and j) – second reading continued (30 minutes) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-40.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Overview of implementation guidance section<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-40.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Feedback from EPDP Team<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Principle b<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Requirements should be spelled out as part of the policy discussion<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There will be different types of entities and may have different documentation to provide <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>These requirements should be as uniform as possible<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>C may need to come before B<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There needs to be an underlying baseline of requirements that are uniform.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Accreditation is all about identification; thought the group agreed that accreditation is at a minimum about identity, but it could also establish other things as well – such as law enforcement, cyber security, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It would be helpful to draw a line b/w the accreditation process and what needs to be included in the disclosure request – parties seeking accreditation should probably not have to include every scenario where a law enforcement would have to interface with the SSAD – hoping the Team can be more specific with baseline requirements for accreditation<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Law enforcement will likely have a different accreditation system than other entities, so that conversation should be separate<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What does accreditation mean? The group discussed the potential for allowing for the automatic disclosure where allowed under the law suggest “and automation of responses where possible under applicable law”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Accreditation does not equate to automated response by default – each query will be decided upon on its own merits<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Certain types of people (user groups) may allow for streamlining – some categories may involve more scrutiny – to that extent, accreditation is more than authentication of identity<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>By adding too much into one subject, the discussion is encumbered. The discussion of accreditation and authentication should be decoupled.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The small team for accreditation agreed that accreditation is not authorization. It might be desirable and helpful to have attributes associated with accreditation. The only attribute that will consistently make a difference is whether it is law enforcement or not. With respect to cyber security researchers, any IT person could legitimately claim to be doing cyber security research. There shouldn’t be entry barriers that say you are or are not cyber security researchers. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The building block includes a list of definitions, which the Team has not yet discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If accreditation only proves identity, the Team is limiting what it can discuss with regard to the release of data. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Support Staff to try to analyze what was said during the conversation with respect to Subpoint B and Subpoint C for online consideration<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Principle d<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:108.35pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo6'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What is the expectation for what de-accreditation means?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:108.35pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo6'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Accreditation would be that the accreditation is who they say they are; as a result, there is access to the system without further verification of identity. If an entity is de-accredited, it would need to be re-accredited.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:108.35pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo6'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This would mean that the authority could revoke access to the system, not “de-accredit”.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Principle g<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What is the accreditation policy and requirements – where is this?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The accreditation policy and associated requirements have not been drafted/implemented yet <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Principle i<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Issue with replaced “must be paid for service” with “cost-recovery system” – this could suggest that the costs need to be covered by another form. The whole system is for the benefit of third-party users who would request disclosure of registration data – concerned with costs being shifted to registrants<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Two types of costs involved – development and deployment of the system and then the cost of day-to-day running of the system<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The costs need to be considered in a cost-recovery system. The purpose of accreditation is to lower these costs. Whatever cost-recovery system takes place – these costs need to be recovered from the users of the system, not from registrants or contracted parties.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Have issues with the terms “significantly reduce”. This is a separate system. The Team really needs to consider a cost-benefit analysis of figuring out someone’s ID – how much will this actually cost? Is it achievable?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Perhaps the second sentence could be moved to Block N.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There are two sets of development costs – accreditation system and SSAD. This paragraph should be limited to the development of the accreditation system. Re: development of SSAD – that should be moved to Building Block N.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Agree with moving the second sentence to Building Block N. If the benefit exceeds the cost, there needs to be an escape valve in the policy. As a policy principle, it should be the benefits of the SSAD system must outweigh the costs.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If there are too many requirements, the system will be too expensive. Avoid saying the costs outweigh the benefits. This language needs more work to make it clear what the team is after. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Maintain first sentence and delete second sentence<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This conversation can be moved to the financial building block.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Registrants do get something from the SSAD – a reliable and secure DNS. The SSAD is not a clean slate – the current system is the registrars having to do the work themselves, and someone is paying for this. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.0in;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There is a clean and reliable DNS system today – to say “cleaner” and “more reliable” would be preferable. Costs may be occurring in other areas that are offset for a system that doesn’t currently exist is problematic and disproportionate.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Principle k<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The use of the word “tagging” is confusing <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Marc to submit proposed updated online<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What is the meaning b/w the first and second sentence?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The SSAD takes requests from accredited and unaccredited users, so unaccredited users will be treated a different way. RDAP is a query response protocol, where you query the system and get a response back. There will now be instances where some queries will be responded to right away and others will be queued (for balancing tests have to be conducted) and the response will be returned later – RDAP was not designed to be used in this way.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The second sentence in k does not make sense. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Implementation Guidance Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Drafting note c – legitimate and lawful purpose described above (stated)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Some implementation belongs in the policy – a and b could be left in implementation guidance. C and D could be left in the policy language as opposed to implementation guidance.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>De-accreditation – this will depend on what the specifics of accreditation are and what it would mean for someone to be de-accredited<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>At the F2F, the Team talked about de-accreditation for the users of the system and the accrediting entities. E and G are potentially in conflict with each other. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What does access to the system mean? Even bad actors should have access to the public data.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This hinges on unaccredited users having access to the system – is the SSAD being used by everyone, or just accredited users?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Can the Team agree that the SSAD could be used by both accredited and non-accredited users? The difference is that accredited entities will query the system w/o verification of the entity. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>SSAD should be usable by everyone and not exclude anyone<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>How one does identity verification is a decision ICANN should be making in the public interest. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:67.5pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo9'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Concern that individuals should not be prevented from getting access to data they may need to protect their domain name<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-40.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Support Staff to update the text of the Accreditation Building Block based on today’s discussion. EPDP Team to provide additional edits in the Google Doc for implementation guidance and definitions by COB tomorrow, Friday, 18 October.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ci-wvA1P9yoKjJ5DPeRbZ5FOHL2D8ExGsN2SV9TPELM/edit"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Financial Sustainability</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> (building block n) – second reading<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l12 level2 lfo11'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Overview of updates made following first reading<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l12 level2 lfo11'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Feedback from EPDP Team<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Third paragraph: cost-recovery basis is used in multiple places. The Team needs to define this term. Cost-recovery is a term of art in accounting, and that definition is probably not what the Team meant here.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cost recovery may mean different things to different people. Also, what does “historic costs” mean in this context? The users of the system should be sustaining the capability of the system on an ongoing basis.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Second paragraph – object to contracted parties bearing the costs.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Different parties will bear different costs – this language does not explain that division of responsibilities. For example, accredited entities will bear the costs of getting accredited. The parties who are receiving the queries that contracted parties would be responsible for setting up their systems to receive queries and respond to them.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Registrants being beneficiaries of the system may be a tenuous argument<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Fourth paragraph – in favor or usage-based fees that sustain the operation of this system. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:1.5in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A system cannot be costed out unless we know what the system is designed to do. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l12 level2 lfo11'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eZBzRclRtEXPp1EScDfftnfnv9tneD7ovxmGe84BQz4/edit"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terms of use / disclosure agreements / privacy policies</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> (building block m) – first reading<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Review building block<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Feedback from EPDP Team<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-49.7pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Wrap and confirm next EPDP Team meeting (5 minutes):</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-40.5pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo13'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Tuesday 22 October 2019 at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo13'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm action items<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-4.5pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo13'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm questions for ICANN Org, if any<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>