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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Hi ,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">At least we can agree that using the accreditation system only for identification is a waste of money, resources and defies any kind of logical thinking. Also Amr,  I don't know why you see automatic disclosure
 as impossible (provided of course that it abides by the law)  Whether automatic disclosure will be possible or not will depend on the lawful basis used for disclosure and on the specific context and circumstances (under some lawful basis and not all). So for
 example if you are disclosing data under 6(1)(a) -consent for specific purposes- I would argue that automating this is both desirable and possible. But also if we look at the disclosure of the data under 6(1)(f) (legitimate interest) In order to decide whether
 to disclose the data or not you will need to perform a legitimate interest assessment which would consist of three parts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Purpose test<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Necessity test<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Balancing test<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD">For the purpose test, legitimate interest may include a wide range of purposes, however GDPR specifically mentions fraud prevention, IT security and criminal acts as legitimate interests
 so if you have parties accredited for specific purposes they can automatically pass this test.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD">For the necessity test you need to prove that there is no other logical, less intrusive way to achieve your purpose, again if you have parties accredited for specific purposes this
 test can also be automated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD">For the balancing test you need to prove that the interests of the data subject does not override the interests of the requestor and again under similar contexts and circumstances maybe
 this could be possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD">I am not trying now to decide what can or cannot be automated as this will need thorough studying, but what I am trying to say that it is not useful to anyone to just decide that automatic
 disclosure would be impossible. We might be wasting good implementation solutions and practices if we come up with a policy that states so.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#4F81BD">Hadia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Amr Elsadr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2019 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Notes and action items - EPDP Meeting #25 - 17 Oct 2019<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we need to be very clear on what we’re discussing, and what different groups might be seeking or agreeing to. Alex pointed out a number of areas where automation may be helpful in processing disclosure requests, which we should
 take in to consideration.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, the notion of <b><i>“automatic disclosure”</i></b> (which to me, includes the decision and actual action/performance of disclosure) is not one that I imagine could be worked out, without infringing on the rights of registrants.
 I’m open to listening to why some might find that to be incorrect or not a sufficient deterrent, but right now, my view is likely the opposite of the IPC’s. I don’t believe we should be recommending a policy that allows for automatic disclosure under any circumstance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So regarding action item 1, this part of the discussion should not result in any update to the Accreditation Building Block. Like Volker said, there is no agreement on this specific point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Amr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 21, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi JK,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">we are not disagreeing here, I think, just trying to clarify our understanding. I also agree to that principle.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.10.2019 um 12:48 schrieb Janis Karklins:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Volker, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had impression that the principle that "SSAD should be as much automated as possible and standardized for the rest" was agreed by all groups in the Team already a while ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When we are thinking about implementability and scaleability of the system, ambiguities in formulations may not be helpful. I understand that on some issues groups may have divergent or even opposing opinions. We should be as flexible as
 possible and as precise as possible and look at the SSAD as a package of different compromises by all groups. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">JK<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:45 AM Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Alex,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">thank you for your response. I don't think that anyone opposes the idea that certain aspects of the system can and should be automated, however that is not the general usage of
 the term in this group so far. "To automate" was always discussed in the context of automating the disclosure decision, and in that context, we cannot support this language.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I think it would be helpful if we were all more clear in what we mean when we use certain words.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Automating completeness, error checking and notices of receipt makes sense and it would be very much appreciated if the system takes care of that for us, but that is not what we
 mean by "automation".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">To your last points, I think we have established that all requests will likely be those of the 6.1.f. variety, and those all include that notorious balancing test which needs to
 take into consideration facts that are not part of the request and in my view cannot be automated.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My personal position on this is that this point can be left open:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If a disclosing CP feels that they can automate that part as well, they should be able to do so, but we should not mandate it. So by striking the reference at this point, we do
 not prohibit such automation, but we also do not mandate it. That strikes me as a workable compromise between our positions, won't you agree?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 20.10.2019 um 19:02 schrieb Alex Deacon:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Volker and all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our thoughts on the topic of automation. <br>
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The IPC objects to any policy that does not allow for the automation of request/response processing.    Once again I remind everyone we are defining policy for a *system* that will be RDAP based - not a process that is based on "old fashioned" technology like
 smoke signals, wax sealed correspondence written by quill and ink, telex messages, faxes or email.   (We already did this in Phase 1 Rec 18)<br>
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Clearly we want a policy that allows for the automation of syntax checking of incoming requests, resulting in an automatic response that indicates the errors to the requestor.   This automation addresses the risk of filling up the request queues of the discloser
 with malformed requests.  <br>
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Clearly we want a policy that allows for the automation of checking that the contents of a request is complete, based on policy we are setting in another building block, resulting in an automatic response that details what is be missing (per policy).    This
 automation allows for the discloser to indicate - without human intervention - what additional information is required per policy and enables the requestor to address the error. <br>
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Clearly we want a policy that allows for the automation of an immediate and synchronous response that indicates the receipt of a valid request and some indication that it will be processed.   Typically such responses include a "ticket number" or some kind of
 uniqueID to allow for future queries (status, updates, deletion, etc.).   This automation allows for efficient queue management on the disclosers side and assists in ensuring our principal of "predictability" is met for the requestor.  <br>
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It is important to note that in none of the three points above do I state or even suggest that automation will or can result in the automatic response of non-public data. <br>
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However having said that - there is no doubt in my mind that there will exist some subset of well formed, valid, complete, properly identified and accredited requests for some subset of legal basis and some subset of purposes that indeed can be automatically
 processed and result in the disclosure of non-public RDS data without human intervention.    The IPC would object to any policy language that would explicitly forbid this from ever happening.  <br>
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Thanks. <br>
Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:67.7pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I don't think 4.B) Principle B:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What does accreditation mean? The group discussed the potential for allowing for the automatic disclosure where allowed under the law suggest
 “and automation of responses where possible under applicable law”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">truly captures the content of our disscussion. The draft should only contain agreed language and the inclusion of "and automation of" was very much not agreed. In fact this language was opposed by a large group and therefore should be removed
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<b>Tuesday, 22 October</b> at 14:00 UTC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika, Berry, and Caitlin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action Items</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Support Staff to update the text of the
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAEBygpoddKOJOfb1whMtaQHcik856aZZc9BoDk392E/edit" target="_blank">
Accreditation Building Block</a> and <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ci-wvA1P9yoKjJ5DPeRbZ5FOHL2D8ExGsN2SV9TPELM/edit" target="_blank">
Financial Sustainability Block</a> based on today’s discussion. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">EPDP Team to provide additional edits in the
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAEBygpoddKOJOfb1whMtaQHcik856aZZc9BoDk392E/edit" target="_blank">
Accreditation Building Block</a> re: implementation guidance and definitions by COB tomorrow,
<b>Friday, 18 October</b>.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">EPDP Team to provide additional edits from today’s conversation to the
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Financial Sustainability Block</a> by <b>Friday, 18 October</b>.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">EPDP Volunteers needed to propose initial text for
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Building Block M – Terms of Use/Disclosure Agreements/Privacy Policies</a> by <b>
Monday, 21 October</b>.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">a)                      Update from legal committee</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">b)                    
</span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/k5ICBw" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Status of building blocks</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EOZY0oNiBrtAOZeka3LCMwyMiaGjSJLVDTcyVl4YnHY/edit" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Accreditation</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
 (building block f and j) – second reading continued (30 minutes) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">a)                      Overview of implementation guidance section</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Requirements should be spelled out as part of the policy discussion</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There will be different types of entities and may have different documentation to provide
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">These requirements should be as uniform as possible</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">C may need to come before B</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There needs to be an underlying baseline of requirements that are uniform.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Accreditation is all about identification; thought the group agreed that accreditation is at a minimum about identity, but it could also
 establish other things as well – such as law enforcement, cyber security, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It would be helpful to draw a line b/w the accreditation process and what needs to be included in the disclosure request – parties seeking
 accreditation should probably not have to include every scenario where a law enforcement would have to interface with the SSAD – hoping the Team can be more specific with baseline requirements for accreditation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Law enforcement will likely have a different accreditation system than other entities, so that conversation should be separate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What does accreditation mean? The group discussed the potential for allowing for the automatic disclosure where allowed under the law suggest
 “and automation of responses where possible under applicable law”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Accreditation does not equate to automated response by default – each query will be decided upon on its own merits</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Certain types of people (user groups) may allow for streamlining – some categories may involve more scrutiny – to that extent, accreditation
 is more than authentication of identity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">By adding too much into one subject, the discussion is encumbered. The discussion of accreditation and authentication should be decoupled.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The small team for accreditation agreed that accreditation is not authorization. It might be desirable and helpful to have attributes associated
 with accreditation. The only attribute that will consistently make a difference is whether it is law enforcement or not. With respect to cyber security researchers, any IT person could legitimately claim to be doing cyber security research. There shouldn’t
 be entry barriers that say you are or are not cyber security researchers. </span>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The building block includes a list of definitions, which the Team has not yet discussed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If accreditation only proves identity, the Team is limiting what it can discuss with regard to the release of data.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Support Staff to try to analyze what was said during the conversation with respect to Subpoint B and Subpoint C for online consideration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Principle d</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What is the expectation for what de-accreditation means?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Accreditation would be that the accreditation is who they say they are; as a result, there is access to the system without further verification
 of identity. If an entity is de-accredited, it would need to be re-accredited.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This would mean that the authority could revoke access to the system, not “de-accredit”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Principle g</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What is the accreditation policy and requirements – where is this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The accreditation policy and associated requirements have not been drafted/implemented yet
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Principle i</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Issue with replaced “must be paid for service” with “cost-recovery system” – this could suggest that the costs need to be covered by another
 form. The whole system is for the benefit of third-party users who would request disclosure of registration data – concerned with costs being shifted to registrants</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Two types of costs involved – development and deployment of the system and then the cost of day-to-day running of the system</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The costs need to be considered in a cost-recovery system. The purpose of accreditation is to lower these costs. Whatever cost-recovery system
 takes place – these costs need to be recovered from the users of the system, not from registrants or contracted parties.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Have issues with the terms “significantly reduce”. This is a separate system. The Team really needs to consider a cost-benefit analysis of
 figuring out someone’s ID – how much will this actually cost? Is it achievable?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Perhaps the second sentence could be moved to Block N.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There are two sets of development costs – accreditation system and SSAD. This paragraph should be limited to the development of the accreditation
 system. Re: development of SSAD – that should be moved to Building Block N.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Agree with moving the second sentence to Building Block N. If the benefit exceeds the cost, there needs to be an escape valve in the policy.
 As a policy principle, it should be the benefits of the SSAD system must outweigh the costs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If there are too many requirements, the system will be too expensive. Avoid saying the costs outweigh the benefits. This language needs more
 work to make it clear what the team is after. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Maintain first sentence and delete second sentence</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This conversation can be moved to the financial building block.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Registrants do get something from the SSAD – a reliable and secure DNS. The SSAD is not a clean slate – the current system is the registrars
 having to do the work themselves, and someone is paying for this. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There is a clean and reliable DNS system today – to say “cleaner” and “more reliable” would be preferable. Costs may be occurring in other
 areas that are offset for a system that doesn’t currently exist is problematic and disproportionate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Principle k</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The use of the word “tagging” is confusing
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Marc to submit proposed updated online</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What is the meaning b/w the first and second sentence?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The SSAD takes requests from accredited and unaccredited users, so unaccredited users will be treated a different way. RDAP is a query response
 protocol, where you query the system and get a response back. There will now be instances where some queries will be responded to right away and others will be queued (for balancing tests have to be conducted) and the response will be returned later – RDAP
 was not designed to be used in this way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The second sentence in k does not make sense.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Implementation Guidance Feedback</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Drafting note c – legitimate and lawful purpose described above (stated)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Some implementation belongs in the policy – a and b could be left in implementation guidance. C and D could be left in the policy language
 as opposed to implementation guidance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">De-accreditation – this will depend on what the specifics of accreditation are and what it would mean for someone to be de-accredited</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">At the F2F, the Team talked about de-accreditation for the users of the system and the accrediting entities. E and G are potentially in conflict
 with each other. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What does access to the system mean? Even bad actors should have access to the public data.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This hinges on unaccredited users having access to the system – is the SSAD being used by everyone, or just accredited users?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Can the Team agree that the SSAD could be used by both accredited and non-accredited users? The difference is that accredited entities will
 query the system w/o verification of the entity. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SSAD should be usable by everyone and not exclude anyone</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How one does identity verification is a decision ICANN should be making in the public interest.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Concern that individuals should not be prevented from getting access to data they may need to protect their domain name</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">c)                      Confirm next steps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Support Staff to update the text of the Accreditation Building Block based on today’s discussion. EPDP Team to provide additional edits in
 the Google Doc for implementation guidance and definitions by COB tomorrow, Friday, 18 October.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:67.7pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">5.                           
</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ci-wvA1P9yoKjJ5DPeRbZ5FOHL2D8ExGsN2SV9TPELM/edit" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Financial Sustainability</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
 (building block n) – second reading</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">a)                      Overview of updates made following first reading</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">b)                     Feedback from EPDP Team</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Third paragraph: cost-recovery basis is used in multiple places. The Team needs to define this term. Cost-recovery is a term of art in accounting,
 and that definition is probably not what the Team meant here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Cost recovery may mean different things to different people. Also, what does “historic costs” mean in this context? The users of the system
 should be sustaining the capability of the system on an ongoing basis.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Second paragraph – object to contracted parties bearing the costs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Different parties will bear different costs – this language does not explain that division of responsibilities. For example, accredited entities
 will bear the costs of getting accredited. The parties who are receiving the queries that contracted parties would be responsible for setting up their systems to receive queries and respond to them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Registrants being beneficiaries of the system may be a tenuous argument</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Fourth paragraph – in favor or usage-based fees that sustain the operation of this system.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A system cannot be costed out unless we know what the system is designed to do.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">c)                      Confirm next steps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eZBzRclRtEXPp1EScDfftnfnv9tneD7ovxmGe84BQz4/edit" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Terms of use / disclosure agreements / privacy policies</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
 (building block m) – first reading</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">a)                      Review building block</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">b)                     Feedback from EPDP Team</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">c)                      Confirm next steps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:67.7pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">7.                            Wrap and confirm next EPDP Team meeting (5 minutes):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">a)                      Tuesday 22 October 2019 at 14.00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">b)                     Confirm action items</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">c)                      Confirm questions for ICANN Org, if any</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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