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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi James,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The two primary interests that you mentioned below are among the main purposes of the document sent to the EDPB. What is yet not understood, Milton's argument that regardless of the reply he
opposes the idea of an entirely centralized request and disclosure system with a distributed registration data system. Depending on the answers we receive we should start factoring all elements in and thus deciding on the best possible system, refusing the
entire idea just from the start does not seem to have any benefit to the work of our team.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hadia Elminiawi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">ALAC representative
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2019 3:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jennifer Gore; 'Mueller, Milton L'; King, Brian; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">I’m not sure I understand the “conflict of interest” cited by Jennifer, below. Are you proposing that Registrars will refuse to disclose data solely on the basis of having a service agreement
with the data subject? And how does disclosure terminate the customer relationship…I don’t recall our discussing this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">While I can’t speak for the Registrars that Jennifer has worked with or for, I don’t believe most Registrars would suspend or terminate service based on a disclosure request. And while
we seek to protect and secure our Registrant customers’ data, no Registrar I know would harbor an abusive or criminal actor for the sake of a $20 domain name.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">The primary interests in play are (1) the Registrar’s interests in avoiding fines by complying with data protection law, and (2) the Registrar’s interest in avoiding legal action by their
Registrant customers (individually or as a class) for improper disclosure of their private data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">J.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue Light";color:#00B050">James Bladel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jennifer Gore <Jennifer@winterfeldt.law><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 15:57<br>
<b>To: </b>"'Mueller, Milton L'" <milton@gatech.edu>, "King, Brian" <Brian.King@markmonitor.com>, "gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hello All, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In my opinion, the Registrar is the worst party to be the decision maker of the data subject due to the blatant conflict of interest. The registrant will have already entered into a legal relationship
with the registrar under the registrant (end user) agreement along with it being in the best interests of the registrar to
<u>not terminate</u> the relationship with the registrant. Therefore, I hope Milton
<u>is not saying</u> that he will hold up consensus even if the DPAs do support the isolation of centralized decision making within ICANN Org.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best regards, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jennifer </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> King, Brian <Brian.King@markmonitor.com>; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> King, Brian <<a href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com">Brian.King@markmonitor.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>Are you saying that even if the DPB writes to the Strawberries and says
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>“yes, it’s possible to isolate liability for decision-making centrally with
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>ICANN Org”, it would still be impossible for us to come to consensus on
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>the centralized decision-making model? (ignoring how (un)likely we think
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>that response is)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Yes, indeed. That is what I am saying. This is one reason we are not so pleased with all this kerfuffle about the EDPB. You’re putting the cart before the horse.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What matters is not whether it is legally _possible_ for ICANN to magically absorb the legal responsibility of the registrars for releasing the data of their customers; what matters is whether
that is _<i>desirable</i>_ from a policy standpoint. Legal advice or “guidance” from the EDPB has no bearing on what is the right policy, it only clarifies whether one of the policy options is feasible.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We want the disclosure decision to be made as close as possible to the party who is directly accountable to the registrant, the data subject, and that’s the registrar. We believe that the legitimate
interests of data requestors are served by standardizing the process, and centralizing and facilitating requests, but centralizing disclosure is going to make it into an automated rubber stamp, as I suspect you have already figured out.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dr. Milton L Mueller</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">School of Public Policy
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Georgia Institute of Technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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