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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>while I personally like Jen very much, I find this comment and
the implication of a conflict of interest immensely offensive.
This insiunuation of intent to profit from illicit use is frankly
outrageous.</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 03.12.2019 um 23:56 schrieb Jennifer
Gore:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hello All, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In my opinion, the
Registrar is the worst party to be the decision maker of the
data subject due to the blatant conflict of interest. The
registrant will have already entered into a legal
relationship with the registrar under the registrant (end
user) agreement along with it being in the best interests of
the registrar to
<u>not terminate</u> the relationship with the registrant.
Therefore, I hope Milton
<u>is not saying</u> that he will hold up consensus even if
the DPAs do support the isolation of centralized decision
making within ICANN Org.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best regards, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jennifer <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<o:p>
</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Internet
Governance</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Winterfeldt IP
Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a
href="x-apple-data-detectors://12/1"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;text-decoration:none">1200
17</span></a><a
href="x-apple-data-detectors://12/1"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sup><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;text-decoration:none">th</span></sup></a><a
href="x-apple-data-detectors://12/1"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;text-decoration:none"> St
NW</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">, </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a
href="x-apple-data-detectors://12/1"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;text-decoration:none">Ste
501</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><a
href="x-apple-data-detectors://12/1"
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style="color:black;text-decoration:none">Washington,
DC 20036</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue"><a
href="mailto:jennifer@winterfeldt.law"
moz-do-not-send="true">jennifer@winterfeldt.law</a></span></u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">+1 202 340 9631</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-epdp-team
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> King, Brian
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com"><Brian.King@markmonitor.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial
Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> King, Brian <<a
href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Brian.King@markmonitor.com</a>>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>Are you
saying that even if the DPB writes to the Strawberries and
says
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>“yes,
it’s possible to isolate liability for decision-making
centrally with
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>ICANN
Org”, it would still be impossible for us to come to
consensus on
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>the
centralized decision-making model? (ignoring how (un)likely
we think
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>that
response is)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Yes, indeed. That is
what I am saying. This is one reason we are not so pleased
with all this kerfuffle about the EDPB. You’re putting the
cart before the horse.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What matters is not
whether it is legally _possible_ for ICANN to magically
absorb the legal responsibility of the registrars for
releasing the data of their customers; what matters is
whether that is _<i>desirable</i>_ from a policy standpoint.
Legal advice or “guidance” from the EDPB has no bearing on
what is the right policy, it only clarifies whether one of
the policy options is feasible.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We want the
disclosure decision to be made as close as possible to the
party who is directly accountable to the registrant, the
data subject, and that’s the registrar. We believe that the
legitimate interests of data requestors are served by
standardizing the process, and centralizing and facilitating
requests, but centralizing disclosure is going to make it
into an automated rubber stamp, as I suspect you have
already figured out.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dr. Milton L Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">School of Public
Policy
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Georgia Institute of
Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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