<div dir="ltr">Volker,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your feedback.</div><div>I would like to explain thinking behind the Steering Committee proposal. It is nothing but common sense idea. If you have a transitional process, it should be somehow managed. A steering committee is the most common way of overseeing and handling such transitional process. </div><div>Leadership and staff analyzed discussion on CPH hybrid model and came forward with a description to stimulate further discussion of the Team. If idea will fly it will turn into a Team proposal. If not, Team should come up with a different idea.</div><div>As per modalities of the potential Steering Committee, it will be discussed in depth. The current proposal is drawn from an existing Steering group within one of ICANN processes.</div><div>Look forward to Team's discussion tomorrow</div><div>JK </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:47 AM Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hello Marika,</p>
<p>thank you for the new proposal. I note that there is a new
proposal included, which is the recommendation of the formation of
a steering committee. Where did this come from? If it rises to the
level of a proposed recommendation in the draft, it should have
originated from the community and seen some consensus amongst our
groups, but I recall no such discussion. <br>
</p>
<p>I appreciate the apparent desire for something other than a
full-fledged PDP to make modifications as time goes by and we
learn more about the SSAD and its potential flaws, but I have my
doubts that the community has sufficient resources in all groups
to staff such a body (It sounds a bit like being condemned to
"EPDP for life").</p>
<p>The proposed make-up also seems unbalanced as the 4 CPH members
could be outvoted by the 5 non-contracted members, and At-Large
and NCSG share one seat (I have my doubts that this could lead to
anything but a stalemate for that seat). As a majority is
sufficient to send any proposal to the GNSO council (even though
it requires a supermajority), this could be problematic. <br>
</p>
<p>With regard to Rec 15: Logging, I porpose to clarify that logging
should not extend to any personal data disclosed through the
system as part of any disclosure decision as that would open up
another can of privacy worms. <br>
</p>
<p>Rec: 14: I Don't think the "must" in the first paragraph had
consensus, or am I mistaken. "should" and "may" are fine,
especially since it may not be known whether automation is legally
permissible in any specific case unless it leaves the realm of
automation and enters the realm of someone looking at the request
and making the relevant determination. I am all for automating
that which can be automated but ultimately that must be determined
by the disclosing parties.<br>
</p>
<p>Rec 12: Suggestion: Could we add something to the effect that
requestors must/should state in their request for how long they
will / expect to retain the data? Also, requestors must always
state in their request that in case they intend to share the data
with third parties, who those third parties are and what their
purposes are. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<p>Am 21.01.2020 um 15:43 schrieb Marika Konings:<br>
</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear EPDP
Team,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please find
below the proposed agenda for the next EPDP Team meeting
which is scheduled for Thursday 23 January at 14.00 UTC.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Also, you
will find attached the proposal for an SSAD Hybrid able to
evolve to a Centralized and Automated Model. Please consider
this proposal with your respective group and come prepared
to Thursday’s meeting to share your groups feedback – this
will be crucial to prepare for a productive F2F meeting. Do
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">note that
updates to the preliminary recommendations in the proposal
only relate to changes that would bring the preliminary
recommendations in line with the proposal described in the
document – other comments and/or highlights have been
removed for ease of reading and will be considered after the
group’s review of the proposal.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Best
regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Caitlin,
Berry and Marika<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:2.25pt double windowtext;padding:0in 0in 1pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">EPDP Phase 2 -
Meeting #41</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Thursday,
23 January 2020 at 14.00 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span>1.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Roll
Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span>2.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Confirmation
of agenda (Chair)</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:67.7pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span>3.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Welcome
and housekeeping issues (Chair) (5 minutes)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>a)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Update from the legal
committee<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>b)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">ICANN follow up on
Belgian DPA response to Strawberry letter – see questions
suggested by Marc Anderson:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:121.5pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Is ICANN expecting an
additional communication on the Strawberry letter?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:121.5pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Would ICANN org like
feedback from the EPDP Team before it meets with the Belgian
DPA?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span>4.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Introduction
of Proposal for an SSAD Hybrid able to evolve to a
Centralized and Automated Model (“The Chameleon”)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>a)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Staff overview<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>b)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">EPDP Team reactions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>c)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Confirm next steps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:68.1pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>5.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Plans for F2F meeting in Los
Angeles
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>a)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Leadership Priorities<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>b)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">EPDP Team input<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>c)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Confirmation of expected homework /
preparations by EPDP Team for the LA F2F meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>d)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Confirm next steps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:68.1pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>6.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Continue review of issues list
(those items not dependent on item #4), if time allows<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>a)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">See highlighted items on the issue
list (to be circulated)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>b)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">EPDP Team input<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt"><span>c)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Confirm next steps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.95in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span>7.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Wrap
and confirm next EPDP Team meeting (5 minutes):</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>a)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Monday 27 January 2020
at 9.00 local time at the ICANN office<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>b)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Confirm action items<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><span>c)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Confirm questions for
ICANN Org, if any<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
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