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<p>Hi Brian, <br>
</p>
<p>I am not sure what legal thought you are referring to here, but
it does not coform to our own legal risk analysis or the Bird and
Bird memos. If you are refrerring to any legal work that you may
have undertaken outside the EPDP, I cannot comment on its quality
or neutrality. In any case, our recommendations should be based on
the official legal work we received. <br>
</p>
<p>You are welcome to include your further suggestions for
automation in the public comments.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.02.2020 um 16:22 schrieb King,
Brian:<br>
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Hi Volker,
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<div>I appreciate the humor from the American TV commercial, in
case non-western readers think you’re yelling at us :-) </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Since we’ve put a lot of legal thought behind this proposal
(and two lawyers recommended this approach yesterday, one of
whom is European), I’d like to request that you please
articulate what risk you think exists to which parties in this
scenario? If you can flesh that out, it will help us understand
and address the risk you see. Thank you! </div>
<div><br>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
255, 0);">Brian J. King</span>
<div>Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs</div>
<div>MarkMonitor / Part of Clarivate Analytics<br>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Phone:
+1 (443) 761-3726</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.king@markmonitor.com">brian.king@markmonitor.com</a></span></div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Volker
Greimann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a> wrote:<br>
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<p>This is not how this works! This is not how any of this
works!</p>
<p>All trademark-related requests will always have to go
through a balancing test, which is not automatable given
our current knowledge. What you are suggesting is neither
legally sound nor acceptable.
<br>
</p>
<p>People have been trademarking any old word, even single
letters can be trademarked. The word sex, which is subject
to dozens, if not more, trademarks is contained in such
words as Essex, Sussex, Middlesex, etc.
<br>
</p>
<p>We also have been over the concept of assertations of
infringement not being sufficient for CPs to release data
on that basis alone.
<br>
</p>
<p>TM-related requests will not be automatable for the
forseeable future. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.02.2020 um 00:22 schrieb
King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi James,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In your example, if Facebook:<o:p></o:p></p>
<ol type="a" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1
lfo10">owns a national TM registration for FACEBOOK,<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1
lfo10">validates that TM and its proof us use with
the TMCH,<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1
lfo10">asserts, under penalty of losing their SSAD
access, that they allege that the domain is
infringing,
<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1
lfo10">requests data for a domain name that contains
an exact match of that same TM, and
<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1
lfo10">swears/affirms that it will only process the
RDS data for the purpose of establishing its legal
claim, and for no longer than required, then
<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal">it’s legally sound for SSAD to
automate that disclosure. There is no potential for
“false hits” – the SSAD is able to rely on these
safeguards for non-exact match domains.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also to your point, without
limiting the generality of my point above, the TMCH
does allow for related “labels” (e.g. brandplusterm).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB">Brian J. King
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-GB"> <br>
Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-GB">T
+1 443 761 3726</span><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#0563C1"><a
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style="color:#0563C1" lang="EN-GB"><br>
</span><span style="color:#0563C1">markmonitor.com</span></a></span></u><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB">MarkMonitor<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> James M. Bladel <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<jbladel@godaddy.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 3, 2020 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> King, Brian <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<Brian.King@markmonitor.com></a>; <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] IPC Proposal
for Day 1 Automation<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Brian and Thomas. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
I was with you until I got to the second part of #3:
“…<i>prefix, infix or suffix of the domain name</i>.”
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is exactly the sort of thing
that should be kicked out of automation in favor of
human review, as there is too much potential for false
hits via string collision. (e.g.: “facebook.TLD” and
“microsoftsurfacebook.TLD”).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The simplest and most effective
automation approach is for exact match, which is
aligned with existing systems, like the Trademark
Clearinghouse.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks - <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">J.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue
Light";color:black">-------------</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue
Light";color:black">James Bladel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue
Light";color:#00B050">GoDaddy</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-epdp-team
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of "King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team" <<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"King, Brian" <<a
href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Brian.King@markmonitor.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, February 3, 2020 at 3:44 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] IPC Proposal
for Day 1 Automation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#EBEBEB"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Notice:</span><span
style="color:black">
</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">This
email is from an external sender.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matt,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please let me know if the below
does not answer your question(s).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB">Brian J. King
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB"> <br>
Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-GB">T +1 443 761 3726</span><u><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-GB">MarkMonitor<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-epdp-team
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 3, 2020 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] IPC
Proposal for Day 1 Automation<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I truly believe we need to talk
about what we mean by automation. Reading the
latest e-mails I got the impression that we are
not thinking along the same lines. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As I tried to outline in LA, I
think automation can work if the following
parameters are met:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Requestor is a trademark
owner, which needs to be verified with the
respective trademark office.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. The trademark must be life
(not just applied for, rejected or expired).<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. The domain name non-public
registration data is asked for is either identical
with the trademark or the trademark is a prefix,
infix or suffix of the domain name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Additonally, all safeguards we
have identified apply. Automation would not work
for figurative marks or where the domain name is
allegedly confusingly similar to the trademark.
Such cases require manual review. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">You might remember I said in LA
that our policies require more detail or the use
cases require more work. This is exactly what I
meant. We need to be specific in what can or must
be done in certain cases. The use cases are too
broad brush, but I think we can make progress if
we continue the exchange of thoughts (as Janis
said, this would likely take place before we
publish the final report. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thomas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 03.02.2020 um 21:12
schrieb Margie Milam <<a
href="mailto:margiemilam@fb.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">margiemilam@fb.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi-<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Trying to boil this down
to something that easier to understand. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The proposal doesn’t say
that all trademark requests by any trademark
holder are to be automated. Instead we are
focusing on a smaller subset that is defined
narrowly --- those trademarks that have
already been validated in the Trademark
Clearinghouse, coupled with an assertion of
agency by the requestor for the trademark
owner that has been made to the
authentication body. The domain-name string
would need to include that trademark. The
requestor would be subject to the
safeguards, and risk losing its
accreditation if it submits requests that
are improper. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">A requester does not need
to prove its entire trademark infringement
case to justify disclosure of the redacted
data – the data is provided to enable the TM
holder to investigate whether it has a case
it wishes to pursue. The SSAD and
contracted parties should not be imposing
their understanding of trademark law to
judge the veracity of the requestor’ rights
– that’s the role of attorneys, judges or
UDRP mediators.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Margie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#627C8E">Margie
Milam</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Gnso-epdp-team
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Matt Serlin <<a
href="mailto:matt@brandsight.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">matt@brandsight.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday,
February 3, 2020 at 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__brian.kingatmarkmonitor.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=gfBUjbXa92X_x_J3_1TrJsIiVaIPIOyZ1vvmz5XnQWo&s=xgxN3P8VN_KhpDSFoasma4LiKHLj6A4y0eL17qe00Rs&e="
moz-do-not-send="true">brian.kingATmarkmonitor.com</a>"
<<a
href="mailto:brian.king@markmonitor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">brian.king@markmonitor.com</a>>,
"<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>"
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[Gnso-epdp-team] IPC Proposal for Day 1
Automation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Brian,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Just so I’m crystal clear
in what you’re saying here…can you confirm
this is your viewpoint?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Trademark law is
complex and nuanced, so we HAVE to
automate disclosure of non-public data
so that contracted parties aren’t
burdened with the review of such
disclosure requests?</i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i> </i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe a real-world
example would help my non-legal mind here…<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brandsight has a
trademark for “Brandsight”<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s say a party has
registered brandsightconsulting.london<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is it your assertion that
Brandsight would be entitled to automatic
disclosure of non-public data<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i>only</i></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>on
the grounds of the registered trademark
being included in the domain name?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Trying to boil down the
discussion to something tangible. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Gnso-epdp-team
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of "King, Brian via
Gnso-epdp-team" <<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"King,
Brian" <<a
href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Brian.King@markmonitor.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday,
February 3, 2020 at 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>"
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[Gnso-epdp-team] IPC Proposal for Day 1
Automation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Volker,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I appreciate the
constructive examples.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In cases like the ones
you mention, I think we should be careful
about which “standard of review” is
appropriate for ICANN and the SSAD to take.
In the UDRP context the IP owner has to
prove her 3.5 elements, but that’s not an
appropriate (or possible) standard for
disclosure for the purposes of the TM owner
establishing her case.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As an aside, the fact
that TM law has its complexities is all the
more reason not to burden contracted parties
(many of whom don’t employ a trademark
attorney (or any attorney), a data
protection officer, etc.) with understanding
and evaluating even the level of nuance
we’re discussing here.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We propose to establish
sufficiently robust safeguards to ensure
that disclosure is valid for the third-party
purpose of establishing a legal claim. This
should be possible within the parameters
we’ve suggested. The law allows for Mr.
Nike’s data to be processed for the limited
time required for this limited purpose, with
these safeguards in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Brian
J. King<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-GB"> <br>
Director of Internet Policy and Industry
Affairs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-GB">MarkMonitor<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-epdp-team
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Volker
Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
February 3, 2020 4:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Gnso-epdp-team] IPC Proposal for Day 1
Automation<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi
Brian,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">we
need to discuss this internally, but I see
little chance for such an automation
proposal at this stage due to issues with
the request safeguards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Trademark
law is a very complex matter and does not
lend itself well to automated decision
making. Trademark rights are not
all-encompassing. To the contary, they are
limited both by geographic scope as well
as by the trademark categories. The use of
an identical string outside the scope is
perfectly legal, and even within the scope
a legal use is usually possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">In
your example, a Mr. Nike who is a car
dealer could very well register domains
that include the words cheap and Nike. If
he is a shoe seller, maybe even nike.shoes
could be a legitimate use of the string.
Just like a Mr. Nissan who still owns<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nissan.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=OGmtg_3SI10Cogwk-ShFiw&r=qQNCXqU_XE2XIdXbawYmk-YDflYH6pd8ffXlzxU37OA&m=gfBUjbXa92X_x_J3_1TrJsIiVaIPIOyZ1vvmz5XnQWo&s=C1ljQtXAAaY6qy1Yw0JzQS-zxEhbSksZdCk8-RD7pA4&e="
moz-do-not-send="true">Nissan.com</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">So
request safeguard 1 already falls short as
it will usually need an independant
determination of that legal question, not
just a statement to that effect by the
interested party.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Volker</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 27.01.2020 um 21:52
schrieb King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-team:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello EPDP Team,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below our
first proposal for automated disclosure.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Trademark
Infringement in Domain Name</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Requestor Safeguards</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l6
level1 lfo3">
Accreditation Authority determines that
the trademark is valid.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l6
level1 lfo3">
Accreditation Authority determines that
Requestor is the legal owner, agent, or
service provider of the trademark.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Request Safeguards</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6">
Requestor alleges that the domain name
infringes Requestor’s trademark.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6">
Requestor states its own legal basis and
purpose for processing the data. Requestor
makes a syntactically correct and complete
request, including any/all required
Authorization Assertions. Requestor makes
all representations required by policy:
use will be limited to stated purpose,
data retention, etc.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6">
Domain string contains exact match of
trademark string<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>(potentially
including prefix or suffix, e.g.
“nike-shoes.TLD” or “cheap-nike.TLD”).<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Additional
Noteworthy Safeguards</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo9">
Registrant committed not to infringe the
rights of third parties in its
registration agreement, as required by the
RA and RAA.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo9">
Registrant was informed at the time that
its data was collected that it could be
processed for third-party purposes,
including intellectual property
protection.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In these cases,
disclosure can be automated.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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