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<p>Yeah, but this is governments who have a significantly larger
ability to take actions that may impact private citizens rights.
We are private sector acting without any legal basis other than
what GDPR permits. We should not compare what appleas can do to
what oranges can.</p>
<p>Volker</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.02.2020 um 19:36 schrieb Mark
Svancarek (CELA) via Gnso-epdp-team:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it’s an interesting case.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From the article:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1A1A1A;background:white">On
Wednesday, the Hague district court agreed with that [by
collating swaths of data on entire neighborhoods, SyRI
contravened the right to a private life guaranteed under
European Human Rights Law], saying that it was legitimate
for the government to use technology to address fraud, but
that SyRI was too invasive.
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is legal or similarly significant
impact, so it’s clearly covered by Article 22, but the court
still seems to have comfort with some level of automation.
It’s confusing.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-epdp-team
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 15, 2020 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> EPDP <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Gnso-epdp-team] On the
legality of algorithmic decision making<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is an interesting article for anyone
here who still thinks that lawful balancing tests can be done
by algorithms.<o:p></o:p></p>
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href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fstory%2Feurope-limits-government-algorithm-us-not-much%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C8dd87581a07e4624ecd808d7b26af094%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637174044681731716&sdata=PmcZTtjGgKWHZqUG97t3r3Zozt%2BmOFd6KJuB0voV4%2F8%3D&reserved=0"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Milton L Mueller<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
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