<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
{mso-style-priority:34;
margin-top:0in;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:29305155;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:1351233984 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1
{mso-list-id:278337903;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:-636329740 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;}
@list l1:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:38.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:74.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level3
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:110.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level4
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:146.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level5
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:182.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level6
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:218.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level7
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:254.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;
mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level8
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:290.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level9
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:326.25pt;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;
mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Volker – <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Great question - there’s lots of relevancy here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The survey covers RDAP and evaluates compliance under the Temp Spec – not under the old WHOIS.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">It documents widespread discrepancies in implementation of RDAP and in compliance with the Temp Spec, including actual examples.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">It found that some registrars are making even non-sensitive domain name registration data difficult to obtain. This is impairing legitimate uses of the data while providing no privacy
benefits.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">It is often difficult for parties to reach out to domain contacts for legitimate purposes. People using the contact tools provided by registrars cannot always be confident that their
messages are being delivered. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The survey notes that because of the enormous usage (66 billion WHOIS registry queries per month, and estimated similar numbers for registrars), it is vitally important that registration
data services function predictably and reliably, and that ICANN provides excellent technical and policy coordination.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The survey lists a series of policy recommendations for consideration to address some of the issues raised by their findings.
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For the EPDP – it highlights the need to:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.25pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Provide as much implementation guidance wherever possible as we finalize our policy recommendations.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.25pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Seek input from ICANN compliance to see what ICANN Org. would like to see in our policy to ensure that it can strengthen its compliance activities with regard to the SSAD.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.25pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Consider ways to allow data that is not required to be protected under GDPR to be public— for example, the data of legal persons, so that there is less that needs to be managed
through the SSAD.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.25pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Centralize as much as possible because that will create greater consistency, and allow the CGM to apply machine learning over time to achieve greater efficiencies.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.25pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Consider whether the policy recommendations proposed in the survey are either already addressed by the EPDP’s Phase 1/Phase 2 reports or should be considered for inclusion in our
final report.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Margie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 2:09 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Margie Milam <margiemilam@fb.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Interisle Study: At the Crossroads: The State of Domain Registration Data Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So what is the relevance to our work here? Our work is set to replace whois, not improve it. One could even argue that WHOIS is already dead in accordance with the terms of the RAA since ICANN already has mandated RDAP as replacement protocol.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Volker A. Greimann<br>
General Counsel and Policy Manager<br>
<b>KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH</b><br>
<br>
T: +49 6894 9396901<br>
M: +49 6894 9396851<br>
F: +49 6894 9396851<br>
W: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.key-2Dsystems.net_&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=FFBRgf_ybTvm5E3KvuzQi496cGuBpdC1KCG2CofRk0A&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">www.key-systems.net</span></a><br>
<br>
Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>
CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br>
<br>
Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:09 AM Margie Milam <<a href="mailto:margiemilam@fb.com">margiemilam@fb.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As mentioned on today’s call, here’s the link to the
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.interisle.net_domainregistrationdata.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=Ekl_gozjgr78KLjyIdx9ljun1LZhkPXJ_94XVAVFShM&e=" target="_blank">
Interisle Consulting Study</a> that highlights widespread problems with the current state of WHOIS. The study focused on the unredacted, public elements of today’s WHOIS, following the adoption of the Temporary Specification. The author is Greg Aaron, and
he provided a short overview of the main study findings on CircleID <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.circleid.com_posts_20200331-2Dat-2Dthe-2Dcrossroads-2Dthe-2Dstate-2Dof-2Ddomain-2Dregistration-2Ddata-2Dservices_&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=1vphPuSOPj06JbiJV_cZzKk6BmrQgPEHd0pkfxLAzYc&e=" target="_blank">
here</a>. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Margie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%">
<b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#627C8E"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%">
<b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#627C8E;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><img border="0" width="128" height="22" style="width:1.3333in;height:.2291in" id="gmail-m_-7465387277780771226_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="cid:~WRD0003.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%">
<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#627C8E">Margie Milam</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%">
<span style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#627C8E">IP Enforcement & DNS Policy Lead | Facebook Legal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:5.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">NOTICE: This email (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential,
or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, or retransmit the email or its contents.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:5.5pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_gnso-2Depdp-2Dteam&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=DeAPFYHpctJNK87PsduYQSTHJzoD-5xTZ8qC80tNKLc&e=" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=2PRtnrTXorh9QanB5vk8WwKCh8Ui9A9Y9zNOGNT7azw&e=" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy</a>)
and the website Terms of Service (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_tos&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=_e2t3uE2KUqtno6QldBn5f1qvkRIsF5hRSyLt_IwKlk&s=gDVcbWSdfXtrClMEjPbo--jXsKUaj0fmSFBE5Skkl-8&e=" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</a>).
You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>