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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear EPDP Team:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The next plenary meeting of the EPDP Team will be Thursday, 11 June at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Marika, Berry, and Caitlin
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">1. EDPP Team to review
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/g.+Draft+Final+Report+-+Phase+2">
draft final recommendations</a> and provide "cannot live with items" and minor edits by
<b>COB Friday, 5 June</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">2. GAC reps to send updated Rec. 2 to EPDP Team ASAP to allow time for review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">3. Staff Support Team to update Rec. 15 and draft an alternative proposal for Rec. 19 based on today's discussion. (Rec. 19 Small Group to discuss the alternative
proposal during small team call on Monday, 8 June at 14:00 UTC.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">4. EPDP Team to review the
<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=126430750">discussion tables for the addendum topics</a> and provide input by
<b>Friday, 5 June</b>, with a focus on recommendations that could be included in the Team's Final Report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #62</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Tuesday 2 June 2020 at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Reminder – homework assignments are due Friday 5 June (see</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/K4LsBw">https://community.icann.org/x/K4LsBw</a> for updated recommendations and
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Hi6JBw">https://community.icann.org/x/Hi6JBw</a> for priority 2 discussion tables)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed language for all recommendations has been posted
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You will notice tables at the top of the recommendation for “cannot live with” and “minor edits”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Following the tables, there is a clean version of the recommendation, followed by a color-coded version, which tracks edits. Yellow highlighting = new edits as a result of public comments. Blue
highlighting = grammatical edits/reorganization<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In some of the recommendations, there is a table that tracks the edits to note when these changes were discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">GAC hopes to get updated Rec. 2 out today or tomorrow
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note response received from ICANN Org (see
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2020-May/003368.html">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2020-May/003368.html</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Recommendation #15 Financial Sustainability (20 min)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Review <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126430750/Recommendation%2015%20-%20Financial%20Sustainability%20-%20Discussion%20items%20list%2027%20May%202020.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1590599855000&api=v2">
remaining discussion items</a> gleaned from input provided on <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2kdKDoLH04OqNfZLJMd1qbDM07an2tZFs9rJOPoILA/edit?usp=sharing">
Financial Sustainability</a> discussion table<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Staff already took a stab at updating the recommendation based on questions 1-5 – will make further updates based on what is discussed today<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should ICANN incur the development and set up costs? Support Staff’s understanding is that “based on CPs” was mainly related to resources that CPs are expected to dedicate to implement and design
their own systems, rather than a payment CPs would make to ICANN for the SSAD.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This assumption is correct – this is about CP’s integration with the SSAD system<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The differentiation was to make clear that CPs will not be charging requestors on a per-request basis in addition to what the SSAD is charging – CPs will be responsible for paying for their own
natural costs.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Requiring CPs and registrants to pay for this is not beneficial for the community and is not sustainable<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Question 7<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Already answered/similar question<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Question 8 <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Number of questions that asked for further clarity with respect to how fees are to be differentiated. Fees may align with volume, type of user, or other factors that would come into play. There
are comments about giving preferential treatment to certain types of users. <o:p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">At this time, we do not know how many users will use the system. We do not know how many requests will be put in the system. As a result, it is proposed that the fee structure will be one of five
topics to be reviewed by the evolutionary mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Arguing against preferential treatment for academic research and similar nonprofit endeavors. This list could get larger and larger and will punch holes into the financial support structure of
this system. Many have stated that the whole system is in the public interest, so do not punch holes in the fee structure – this will lead to arbitrary distinctions.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">No changes should be made based on Q8<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">One issue the Team has never discussed is the extent the fees should be commensurate with the effort involved. If, for example, we decide that academic research is something worthy of having. With
the proper restrictions, the information could be released automatically and therefore would cost less.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Q10 – is this something the EPDP Team is willing to consider at this stage – as this would make accreditation potentially no longer necessary and would have a cost implication?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A statement under penalty of perjury is probably not enough since this statement may not mean much depending on the jurisdiction. While it may not require the same level of background screening
as for registrars, we should not do away with accreditation entirely.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">One benefit of the SSAD system is that we are providing a way to accredit an entity looking for nonpublic registration data is who they say they are. There is a lot of value in this. Changing this
would undermine the work the team has done up until now.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This policy has a number of safeguards in it. The idea that you would take out the accreditation (a safeguard) with an assertion is absurd and do not support this change.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regarding the benefits of accreditation, this doesn’t seem to reflect the operational decisions in the balancing test.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Q10 – in reference to conversation the group had a couple of meetings ago regarding ICANN’s paper, - is there anything that needs to be changed or added to the recommendation?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Team should send a formal thank you to ICANN org for its work on this.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The accreditation part does not need to be well-funded since we have looked at not excluding the possibility of self-organized groups taking over the accreditation part. Anything beyond ICANN’s
review of this would not need to be costed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Q11 – suggestion that was made in the comments received – this is not a typical policy recommendation. Is there any concern in making clear that this is guidance that is expected to be considered
in the implementation phase?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Object to this – these are clearly policy recommendations and are meant to bind the SSAD<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is probably no way the IRT escapes discussing this, but presumably they will discuss the finer points and details. The IRT, however, needs to understand the pillars of how this system is
to be paid for.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Support Staff to update the recommendation based on this discussion<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-npFkABPc-u3To6uYe2v6MTFHlrEOUD5i6x8LrHAJaE/edit">
updated draft recommendation</a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This evolutionary mechanism is part of the compromise and is an essential part of the whole package. It should ensure that the functionality of the system is improved in clearly-defined areas.
This text was developed by a small group – it should be seen in light of existing mechanisms. There are safeguards built in whereby if this mechanism is not efficient, it will be reviewed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Main concern goes to the final decision being made by the GNSO Council
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As Janis noted, this was raised in the discussion with the small team, and went through the existing processes that are currently in play and based on that, the group determined that the GGP may
be the best or only fit for what the group is trying to achieve here. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The IPC referenced SPRIT, which is being looked at in the SubPro WG – but this is not something that has been agreed or finalized yet. As that mechanism is foreseen, it is a triage committee; it
is not a group that will make decisions. It would work under the oversight of the GNSO Council.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">At this point, we are being asked to take it on faith that the size and composition of the GGP group will be acceptable to non-GNSO groups. We may have no say over the composition of the group.
This is an evolutionary process – the evolution will not change the policy, and yet the GGP requires a supermajority of the GNSO to approve it. That means a single stakeholder group + 1 other member could veto anything coming out of the GGP.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Need to have faith in the GNSO Council that it will act in the best interest of all. The membership of EPDP will be reflected in the GGP, so non-GNSO groups will be present in this mechanism. If
there is consensus in the mechanism, there is a good chance the Council will accept this.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What we are concerned about – when you talk about modifications of the SSAD, is the line b/w policy and implementation is very thin. There are concerns that this group could bypass the policy process.
Therefore, it’s entirely appropriate that these recommendations have to have supermajority support in the GGP itself. Otherwise, there is the risk of capture. Re: the role of the GNSO, this is the way ICANN is structured.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What consensus are we looking at? If ACs do not have a vote, the meaning of consensus is different. The EPDP is a break from previous operational practice. For the EPDP we tried to do something
different, and that is what we’re trying to do here. Do not think we should lock ourselves into existing structures. We need to be agile. If the only solution is to spin up new EPDPs, this will be unwieldy.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There seems to be general frustration with the model. Innovation is laudable and expected in tech companies, but that is not the purpose or function of ICANN. Saying we need to try something different
is concerning. Operationally, the SSAD should not be static or carved in stone, particularly if the ground shifts again from a regulatory perspective. Anything that creates new obligations for CPs or data subjects has to go through the GNSO. This is not up
for negotiation within a PDP. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The group was not able to come up with any alternatives to the GGP proposal<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are not in a state of discomfort with the GGP, but as we have made clear – our support for the notion that we will not have centralization or a number of things we wanted to see in the policy
– is that there would be a mechanism for evolution. The evolution needed to be chartered and explicit. That was how we were willing to negotiate around the hybrid model, but this does not exist in the current draft.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Re: the five areas of the mechanism that are defined – are these not the correct areas for evolution?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The GGP could say no on evolution on each of these topics – these are not goals that need to be reached.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should not be afraid of creating something new<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What is in scope that would make evolution a policy development matter vs. not a policy development matter. An example – the concept of proximate cause with fully-automated decision making. Use
cases that B&B were not comfortable saying could be automated today may be clearer in the future. Why would we need another PDP to change this? The GGP is not lightweight and fast enough to make that happen in a reasonable timeframe. We need a policy recommendation
that says when legal guidance is received that makes it lawful to centralize, this should be allowed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The issue is – once new guidance is received or all are in agreement that things should be further automated – how is this implemented and who decides? Is the suggestion that this should go straight
to ICANN org instead of the GNSO Council?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yes. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Do not agree to this – this circumvents policy-making process. There is already something that allows voluntary automation. Support anything that is voluntary, but anything that is mandatory needs
to go through the proper processes.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">SSAC did issue a report – SSAC 111 has a significant section on the evolutionary mechanism and notes there is not an existing mechanism that meets the need.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Centralization is not, but should be, in the list of topics the MfE should be charged with.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The Team probably needs some guardrails to ease the concerns of the contracted parties. Do need to recognize that the concept of centralization does not mean full automation.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Based on this conversation, invite those who are interested in continuing this conversation on the evolutionary mechanism to note this in the chat so that the conversation on the MfE can be done
in parallel.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">High level overview (see
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Hi6JBw">discussion tables</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">High-level overview of comments/concerns received on the addendum<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Display of information for affiliated vs. accredited P/P providers – main concerns did not relate to the recommendation – many expressed concern over the continued pausing of the PPSAI IRT. Specific
proposal put forward that the recommendation should include a PP customer ID to correlate registrations. There are also questions on whether the EPDP Team should consider underlying PP customer data in its deliberations. The group sent a letter to ICANN org
that it had concluded its work on PP.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Legal v. natural persons – no recommendation included in the addendum. Group is still waiting for the results of the study. Input focused on opinions on this question.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">City field redaction: some groups believe city field should not be redacted<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Data retention: number of concerns regarding data retention period – some argued it should be longer but no details were provided for that foundation. There are also two perspectives = CPs – data
that is retained can only be used for the TDRP while others want to be clear that the data can used for compatible purposes.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">OCTO purpose: there is general agreement for the conclusion reached, but some groups noted that support for this conclusion is tied to Purpose 2<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Feasibility of uniform anonymized email address: this was based on legal guidance from B&B on this topic. A number of commenters noted the group did not have time to fully consider this topic.
Suggestion to continue discussing this topic and asking for further guidance<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Accuracy and WHOIS ARS: this was removed by the Council from the EPDP Team’s consideration – many comments were related to disagreeing with the Council’s characterization<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Purpose 2: there are a couple of commenters that suggested the group should go back to the original purpose 2 language. The NCSG has suggested that the recommendation should be deleted b/c it is
not clear enough and worksheets, similar to Phase 1, should be developed. There is a worksheet that was developed for Purpose 2 in Phase 1 that is included in the Phase 1 Final Report.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ask from the groups: this was a high-level overview. Please review the discussion tables that have been posted and provide your input. Please focus on items where issues could be resolved and included
in the Final Report. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Data retention: misrepresents what was being said by CPs – want to clarify that this is what the recommendation stated – the only identified retention period is the TDRP. You can hold the data
for the TDRP.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We did not say that data was retained for the TDRP, but the TDRP sets the outer limit. The TDRP sets the outer limit but it is not the only thing it may be used for while it is being retained.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wrap and confirm next EPDP Team meeting (5 minutes):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">at 14.00 UTC (tentative). Topic to be addressed: ‘cannot live with’ items and draft Final Report.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Confirm action items</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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