<div dir="ltr"><div>I support the language proposed by Marika with one suggested edit:</div><div>change "
<span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">some preliminary discussions</span>"</div><div>to "
substantial <span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">preliminary discussions</span>" <br></div><div><br></div><div>Considering how much time we spent (and lost) on this topic again and again, this seems appropriate.<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span lang="EN-US">-- <br>Volker A. Greimann<br>General Counsel and Policy Manager<br><b>KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH</b><br><br>T: +49 6894 9396901<br>M: +49 6894 9396851<br>F: +49 6894 9396851<br>W: </span><a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">www.key-systems.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br><br>Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br><br>Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.</span><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:13 AM Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear EPDP Team,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">In relation to agenda item #4a, the Staff Support Team has worked with Rafik on coming up with proposed language to provide a status update on the topics of legal/natural and feasibility of unique contacts
 for inclusion in the Final Report. This write up took as a basis the RySG proposed language (see item #38) with some editorial updates:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11pt">Legal/Natural: Although the issue did get some consideration in Phase 2, this did not result in agreement on new policy recommendations. The requested study on this topic was received too late in the process
 to receive due consideration.  As a result, per the EPDP Phase 1 recommendations, Registrars and Registry Operators are permitted to differentiate between registrations of legal and natural persons, but are not obligated to do so. Further work on this issue
 (including consideration of ICANN org’s Differentiation between Legal and Natural Persons in Domain Name Registration Data Directory Services (RDDS) Study) is under consideration by the GNSO Council.”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11pt">Feasibility of Unique Contacts: “The EPDP Team received legal guidance that indicated that the publication of uniform masked email addresses results in the publication of personal data; which indicates
 that wide publication of masked email addresses may not be currently feasible under the GDPR. Further work on this issue is under consideration by the GNSO Council</span></i><span style="font-size:11pt">.</span><span style="font-size:11pt">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We hope this is a helpful starting point for today’s discussion on this topic.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Caitlin, Berry and Marika<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" target="_blank">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 00:59<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-epdp-team] Proposed Agenda - EPDP Team Meeting #74 - Thursday 23 July at 14.30 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear EPDP Team,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please find below the proposed agenda for the next EPDP Team meeting scheduled for Thursday, 23 July at 14:30 UTC (for 90 minutes).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Best regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Marika, Berry, and Caitlin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #74</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Thursday 23 July 2020 at 14.00 UTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span>1.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">                           
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span>2.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">                           
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Confirmation of agenda (Chair)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span>3.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">                           
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Welcome and housekeeping issues (Chair) (5 minutes)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Expected approach for consensus designation and timeline:</span><u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From the GNSO Working Group Guidelines:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">The recommended method for discovering the consensus level designation on recommendations should work as follows: </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">i. After the group has discussed an issue long enough for all issues to have been raised, understood and discussed, the Chair, or Co-Chairs, make an evaluation of the designation and publish it for the group to
 review. </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">ii. After the group has discussed the Chair's estimation of designation, the Chair, or Co-Chairs, should reevaluate and publish an updated evaluation. </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">iii. Steps (i) and (ii) should continue until the Chair/Co-Chairs make an evaluation that is accepted by the group. </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">iv. In rare case, a Chair may decide that the use of polls is reasonable. Some of the reasons for this might be:</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">o A decision needs to be made within a time frame that does not allow for the natural process of iteration and settling on a designation to occur. </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.95in"><i><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">o It becomes obvious after several iterations that it is impossible to arrive at a designation. This will happen most often when trying to discriminate between<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Consensus<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span></b>and<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Strong
 support but Significant Opposition<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span></b>or between<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Strong support but Significant Opposition<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span></b>and<span class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Divergence. </b></span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Modified timeline:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">22 – 26 July – continuation of online dialogue on category 2 items</span></b><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">27 July – confirmation in google doc of proposed agreements on category 2 items by staff support team – by 28 July groups to confirm if they cannot live with the proposed agreements (if cannot
 live, proposed agreements will NOT be applied)</span></b><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
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<b>24 </b>July: distribution of Final Report and consensus designations. As a reminder, the Chair will make an evaluation of the support achieved for the recommendations and publish its designation for the group to review. </span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2<b>4</b><s>3</s> -
<s>27</s> <b>29 </b>July: opportunity for EPDP Team to respond to consensus designations, review by Chair of input received, if any, confirmation by Chair of designation. </span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<s><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">27</span></s><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<b>29 </b>July: deadline for minority statements.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6677007575748003236MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">31 July: No later than date for submission of Final Report to the GNSO Council</span><u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><span>4.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">                           
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Finalization of review of cannot live with items:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Any further items flagged after review of proposed approach for cannot live with items documented
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16BICriVfOPiEeve4A-x6TYKPbgRKqvhX/edit" target="_blank">
in google doc</a> following 21/22 calls or following review of <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xb5eE3CxTvx5tFNmhsO_F7OdOIRMJFH/edit" target="_blank">
updated rec #8 language</a></span><u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Category 2 items (groups to prioritize which items they would like to flag / discuss)</span><u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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