<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Brian,</div><div><br></div><div>That approach is actually very compliant with data protection law. Overprotection is not an issue. If you simply protect all data equally in a way that would be compliant, you do not need to differentiate. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Accuracy is shown by demonstrating that the data is unchanged from the time it was created and how it was created, by showing that the data subject has contractually agreed to only provide accurate data (and correct if outdated), and has been provided with an annual opportunity to review the data. That is the level accuracy that is relevant under the accuracy principle of the GDPR, after all.</div><div><br></div><div>On top of that (Bonus round for extra points here) the data collection process ensured that only properly formatted data was collected and the registrant has been required to verify his email address. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So reasonable steps to ensure the accuracy have been taken, the data subject can request a correction at any time and we will take action on any indication of inaccuracy of the data.</div><div><br></div><div>But the real problem isn't actually inaccurate data, in our experience. It is accurate data of the wrong data subject. <br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span lang="EN-US">-- <br>Volker A. Greimann<br>General Counsel and Policy Manager<br><b>KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH</b><br><br>T: +49 6894 9396901<br>M: +49 6894 9396851<br>F: +49 6894 9396851<br>W: </span><a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">www.key-systems.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br><br>Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835<br>CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner<br><br>Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(248,249,250)">This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended only for the person(s) directly addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, transmission, distribution, or other forms of dissemination is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email with any files that may be attached.</span></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:48 PM King, Brian <<a href="mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com">Brian.King@markmonitor.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suppose my point (and I think I’m also paraphrasing an intervention made by Melina previously) is that approach is not likely to be compliant with data protection law.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I accept that the concept of accuracy as a policy matter is not within our remit, but let’s use accuracy as a data protection principle – how could a controller reasonably demonstrate to a DPA that the controller’s data is accurate, for
example, if the controller has not even assessed whether the data is personal data?
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<p class="MsoNormal">the easiest way to comply with data protection law is to simply treat all registration data as if it were personal data. No chance of ever running afoul data protection law if you do that correctly and it is pretty easy to demonstrate as
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the constructive intervention. Your point is well taken, and I can certainly see that from the RNH perspective.
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<p class="MsoNormal">One feature of data protection law related to your point is that it requires data controllers and processors to be able to demonstrate compliance with the law. A controller or processor
could doubtfully demonstrate compliance with data protection law if they had not determined whether they were actually processing personal data. In fact, data protection professionals will tell you that you absolutely must determine what personal data you’re
processing as the first step toward compliance with data protection law. It seems the policy question is: what, if anything, should contracted parties be required to do based on the status of the data? Is that right?
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<p class="MsoNormal">As always, we’re happy to work with you and look forward to finding consensus.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was reading through two documents setting out in detail the proposed guidance on legal/natural.
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<p class="MsoNormal">There seems to be more than one Google doc on this and I am not sure which one is the latest or most official, though I suspect it is the one with various people’s comments crawling
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was pretty supportive of the Guidance overall. I had one problem with it, though.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I liked the description of HOW the differentiation needed to take place. But in describing WHEN differentiation takes place and WHO would do it, it sets out 3 “high level scenarios”.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The first two are ok. The third scenario (listed as #5 in the document) is that the Registrar does it for the RNH, based on “inferences.”
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<p class="MsoNormal">That option just doesn’t fly for those of us representing RNH’s in this process. We cannot have a registrant’s disclosure status or person type determined FOR them by someone else.
If we can strike that part of the guidance, I think we can be on our way to a much broader consensus.
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