[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Co-Chairs' proposal for Working Group consideration - UPDATED

Wed Oct 4 23:03:13 UTC 2017

Dear WG Members,

Please find the updated document, taking into account the recent email exchange between George and Phil. 

Note, the proposed agenda for the upcoming call is as follows:

1. Roll call/updates to SOI
2. Update on outreach to WG members
3. Discussion of amended co-chairs proposal for WG consideration (attached) - continued
4. AOB

Best,
Steve

On 10/4/17, 6:40 AM, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Phil Corwin" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:

    George:

    You are correct, and I hereby offer a Mea Culpa for that incorrect sentence, which I authored. It was a mistake on my part rather than any attempt to mislead the WG.

    My personal view remains that Option A would be DOA upon arrival at the GNSO Council, and that Option B would suffer the same fate because it adopts Option A for all grandfathered domains. The bigger problem is that such rejection might bring down the entire Final Report.

    Best, Philip

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    -----Original Message-----

    From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of George Kirikos

    Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 6:39 AM

    To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org

    Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Co-Chairs' proposal for Working Group consideration - UPDATED

    In my email last week:

    http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2017-September/000849.html

    I pointed out various flaws in the "Preliminary Notes" section:

    http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2017-September/000849.html

    e.g. in relation to Option B, it was asserted:

    "They also observe that it would leave registrants of grandfathered domains without any arbitral appeal option in the event that an IGO successfully invoked judicial process immunity."

    which is obviously incorrect, because in that scenario "Option A"

    would apply, and there would not be any need for the registrants to seek arbitration, given the UDRP decision would be vitiated.

    Sincerely,

    George Kirikos

    416-588-0269

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    On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org> wrote:

    > Dear WG Members,

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    > Taking into account the WG members’ conversations on the 28 September 

    > WG meeting, staff has updated the “Options Proposal for WG Discussion” 

    > document for continued discussion on the upcoming 5 October meeting. 

    > It is anticipated that the conversation will return to Option B and 

    > then continue to then discuss Option C.

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    > Please do let us know if anything might require adjustment prior to 

    > the WG’s next meeting.

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