<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>For the ECOSOC list, I believe a good starting point is at:<br><br><a href="http://csonet.org/?menu=100">http://csonet.org/?menu=100</a><br><br></div>However, while there are 3900 NGOs listed at:<br>
<br><a href="http://csonet.org/content/documents/e2013inf6.pdf">http://csonet.org/content/documents/e2013inf6.pdf</a><br><br></div>It's unclear how many of them are INGOs. A search on the page at:<br><br><a href="http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/displayAdvancedSearch.do?method=search&sessionCheck=false">http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/displayAdvancedSearch.do?method=search&sessionCheck=false</a><br>
<br></div>with "Geographic Scope" limited to "International" returns a list of 8390 matches, which is very odd, given that this number exceeds the 3900 NGOs that were supposed to form the entire dataset!<br>
<div><div><br></div><div>Another dataset that might be of interest, by the way, is the .INT zone file. There's an archive of it from 2012 in the Wikipedia article at:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.int">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.int</a><br>
<br></div><div>(item #6), although perhaps someone at IANA can provide a more recent zone file. Someone had already analyzed the 2012 list and produced a table of organizations at:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_with_.int_domain_names">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_with_.int_domain_names</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,<br><br>George Kirikos<br>416-588-0269<br></div><div><a href="http://www.leap.com/">http://www.leap.com/</a><br></div><div><br><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Petter Rindforth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" target="_blank">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi George and All,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for this <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:115%">excellent</span> input!</div>
<div><br></div><div>As noticed during our meeting today, there are a number of topics to work on.</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The WG
should “at a minimum” consider:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The differences between the
UDRP and the URS;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The relevance of existing
protection mechanisms in the Applicant Guidebook for the New gTLD Program;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The interplay between … this
PDP and the forthcoming GNSO review of the UDRP, URS and other
rights-protection mechanisms;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The distinctions (if any)
between IGOs and INGOs for purposes of this PDP;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The potential need to
distinguish between a legacy gTLD and a new gTLD launched under the New gTLD
Program;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The potential need to clarify
whether the URS is a Consensus Policy binding on ICANN’s contracted parties;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The need to address the issue
of cost to IGOs and INGOs to use curative processes; and</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The relevance of specific
legal protections under international legal instruments and various national
laws for IGOs and certain INGOs (namely, the Red Cross movement and the
International Olympic Committee).</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Review the deliberations of
the 2003 President’s Joint Working Group on the 2001 WIPO report as a possible
starting point;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Consider whether subsequent
developments such as the introduction of the New gTLD Program and the URS may
mean that prior ICANN community recommendations on IGO dispute resolution are
no longer applicable;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Examine whether or not similar
justifications and amendments should apply to both the UDRP and URS, or if each
procedure should be treated independently and/or differently; </span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Reach out to existing ICANN
dispute resolution service providers for the UDRP and URS as well as
experienced UDRP panelists ..</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Determine what (if any) are
the specific different considerations (including without limitation qualifying
requirements, authentication criteria and appeal processes) that should apply
to IGOs and INGOs;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Conduct research on applicable
international law regarding special privileges and immunities for IGOs</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Conduct research on the extent
to which IGOs and INGOs already have trademarks and might be covered, in whole
or in part, by existing UDRP and URS proceedings;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Conduct research on the number
and list of IGOs currently protected under Article 6ter of the Paris Convention
for the Protection of Intellectual Property;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Conduct research on the number
and list of INGOs included on the ECOSOC list in consultative status;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Consider whether or not there
may be practicable alternatives, other than amending the UDRP and URS, that can
nonetheless provide adequate curative rights protections for IGOs and INGOs,
such as the development of a specific, narrowly-tailored dispute resolution
procedure modeled on the UDRP and URS, and applicable only to IGOs and/or
INGOs; </span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Consider a very clear
definition of the mission of the IGOs, its scope of operations and the regions
and countries in which it operates; the goal here being to provide a context
for the IGO or INGO similar to the scope and terms of a trademark with its
International Class and clear description of goods and services;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Consider recommendations that
incorporate fundamental principles of fair use, acknowledge free speech and
freedom of expression, and balance the rights of all to use generic words and
other terms and acronyms in non-confusing ways; and</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:5.75pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:110%;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Bear in mind that any
recommendations relating to the UDRP and URS … may be subject to further review
under the GNSO’s forthcoming PDP to review all the rights protection mechanisms
…</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Some of these should be rather easy to clarify/list, etc so that we then can proceed with the more difficult parts.</div><div><br>
</div><div>I suggest that we initially identify those topics that are lists/reasearch/identification, in order to give us a good base for our work on the other topics.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have special experience and/or contacts related to one or more of the points above, please step forward and let us know.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Petter</div><div><br>-- <br>Petter Rindforth, LL M
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<br>Thank you<br><br><p>11 augusti 2014, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>> skrev:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi folks,<br><br></div>Just to followup on our conference call, it might be useful if we had access to a database of IGOs and INGOs, which we could then survey in order to obtain primary research data. This could then be used to help answer threshold questions (such as whether the data indicates that the scale of any domain name abuse is sufficient to warrant changes to existing curative RPMs, etc).<br>
<br>One link I had posted in the chat room was for:<br><br><a href="http://www.uia.org/yearbook" target="_blank">http://www.uia.org/yearbook</a><br><br></div>which is a database of over 66,000 IGOs and INGOs. However, it costs $3,030/yr for an annual subscription (and it's unclear whether that database can be shared amongst multiple members of the working group).<br>
<br>WIPO itself maintains a public Article 6ter database at:<br><br><a href="http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/en/6ter/" target="_blank">http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/en/6ter/</a><br><br></div>(simply clicking "Search" without putting any data into the fields yields 3027 records)<br>
<br></div>Similarly, doing a search at the USPTO, via:<br><br><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp</a><br><br></div>(and then click Trademark Search, Basic Word Mark Search (New User), and then perform a search of "6ter" with a field of "ALL") provides a list of 735 such marks registered in the USA.<br>
<br></div><div>TMView is another tool for researching marks in many countries, see:<br><br><a href="https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/welcome.html" target="_blank">https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/welcome.html</a></div><br><div>Canada's TM database is searchable via:<br>
<br></div><div><a href="http://cipo.gc.ca/" target="_blank">http://cipo.gc.ca/</a><br></div><div><br></div>Of course, it is insufficient to simply survey IGOs and INGOs. We should also be reaching out to domain name registrants, to get their input/data on relevant questions (e.g. have they been accused of cybersquatting, have they received C&Ds, UDRPs, URS proceedings, lawsuits, whether those accusations had merit, how they used their short domain names, legal expenditures, etc.). <br>
<br>There are tools to extract the contact data from the public WHOIS records on a bulk basis to form a data set, although I don't use them myself (as a domain name registrant, I regularly receive bulk mailings from others, though, who've obtained the contact info via WHOIS).<br>
<br></div>There are tools like UDRPSearch.com to find historical UDRP cases involving IGOs, INGOs, and registrants of short acronyms, etc. PACER exists to find US court cases, although perhaps some of the law firms participating in this working group (or ICANN itself) have access to superior paid tools, like Westlaw, Lexis Nexis, etc. CanLII.org is a public database of Canadian court cases.<br>
<br></div><div>I'm guessing most folks here are already familiar with sites like DomainTools.com or ZFBot.com to do research on domain names matching various strings.<br><br></div><div>The OpenCorporates site maintains an index of corporations in numerous jurisdictions, see:<br>
<br><a href="http://opencorporates.com/" target="_blank">http://opencorporates.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div>Perhaps others have ideas on additional sources of data that might be helpful to this working group.<br><br>
</div>Sincerely,<br>
<br>George Kirikos<br>416-588-0269<br></div><a href="http://www.leap.com/" target="_blank">http://www.leap.com/</a><br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
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