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Individual<u><o:p></o:p></u></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jay Chapman – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jim Bikoff – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nat Cohen – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paul Tattersfield – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Petter Rindforth – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Val Sherman – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Griffin Barnett – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mason Cole – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Reg Levy – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kathy Kleiman-NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kristine Dorrain – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>David Heasley – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Alexander Lerman – no SOI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>John Mcgrann – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>David Maher - RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Steve Chan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mailing list archives:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/</a> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg">https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg</a> </span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span> Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 8th September 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Audio has been enabled in the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jay Chapman:Hi Nathalie. Where will I find a dial-in number for audio?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:on the email invitation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:where are you based?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jay Chapman:got it. the email was curtailed <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:ok great!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Reg - M+M:Is audio dial-in only?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Reg, thre's audio in the Adobe Connect room as well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:And you can also turn on your mic for speaking purposes in AC.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Val Sherman:Hello All. Also dialed in, along with Griffin Barnett and David Heasley<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Reg - M+M:Okay, just no one's speaking right now :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Reg - M+M:thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:noted!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:You're most welcome!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Reg - M+M:I am a new member in the sense that this is my first call—but my SOI is updated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Will this be a 1 hour call, or 90 mins?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Osvaldo Novoa and Alexander Lerman have joined the ca;;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Gearge, 60 mins<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Great, thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Imran Ahmed Shah has joined the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Q: Has this been acknowledged by the entire board, or just the subset of the board in the New GTLDs Committee?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:(there was some debate on that on the GNSO Council mailing list, so it was unclear)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain-NAF:sorry to introduce myself and run but I had short notice on this meeting and have a conflict. See you all next week!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:yes, you are correct<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:I suggest that we the WG members should be provided with the access to the databases to have a look onto them before the discussion about recommendations or discussion starts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Do you mean the TMCH database, Imran? Or some other ones?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:yes also the other databases like yearbook of IGO, IGNO and others<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Right, I suggested those, although they're very expensive -- hopefully ICANN can either buy it, or ask for it to be free (since we're using it for "academic" or "research" purposes)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:yes, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:I agree that we will need to review for policy development process<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:The Doodle poll was fairly even --- conceivably we could rotate the dates/times?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@George, if possible we'd like to avoid that as from past experience that's proven more confusing than we'd thought :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Ok. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:It is fine for me to both Mon or Tue same time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:altou its 00 mid night, but some times its ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:Mondays are good for me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Reg - M+M:fine for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:I'll be fine with this time, personally, for most weeks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:(can't speak for others who aren't present, though)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jay Chapman:next Mon works - not all will<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:And what will be the agenda of next meeting?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Can we have the draft work plan well in advance of the next meeting?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:(if we're just seeing it for the first time next Monday, we won't be able to put forth meaningful comments/analysis)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:yes, it will be helpful to review<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@George, the idea is to share it with the WG as much prior to Monday as we can :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Thanks, Mary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:But that is not knowledge now held by this WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Staff can circulate the documents that Jim mentioned for this WG's review.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:@Mary: great<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Correct about the IOC. THe question is, if they're exercising the rights, why change the status quo?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:I do not agree that without looking onto the data and information, we will be preparing right policy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:(and that's part of the scope of this group, i.e. IGO/INGOs concerned about immunity, etc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:But what analysis has been done of the scope of protection of an IGO with a very general name, e.g., World Health Organization?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Yes, Kathy. e.g. for ISO, there are registered TMs for gloves, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:The concern is that many similar organizations, with similar missions, and no intent to infringe, easily overlap in these highly descriptive names. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:So, part of our work should be an examination, i.e. going out and getting all the data, to measure the extent of the problems, concurrent uses, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:One distinction between an IGO and an INGO is the different "hurdles" each has with using the UDRP and URS. For instance, IGOs have a jurisdictional immunity issue that INGOs do not have - this was in the Issue Report as a basis for the Council to initiate the PDP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@George, we are hoping that NAF and WIPO can assist us in that regard (data etc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:By, for example, surveying all IGOs/INGOs directly, we can actually get more scientific data, rather than ad hoc data like we currently have from a few voices.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:(if we have the budget to go out and send a mass mailing, for example)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Looks like we're close to 4 pm.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Bye everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Imran Ahmed Shah:Thansk<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:Tx!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>