<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>So that really only means that we conclude that INGOs already have access to the current system. I fail to see any additional work to justify treating them differently. One set may have particular concerns but they both fit within the framework we are trying to create for our analysis.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:11 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and document for review, for WG call on Wednesday 5 November<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Paul;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Following up on the WG call that just ended, my response on the basis between differentiating between IGOs and INGOs is that the former are created by/composed
of governments while the latter are private sector entities, albeit largely non-profit. Also, the issue of sovereign immunity does not have to be considered for IGOs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">So I believe those distinction would be sufficient to justify a decision by the WG to drop INGOs from further consideration (other than IOC and RCRC, given
the Council resolution’s specific directive on that) and consider IGOs only in our further deliberations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">That is my personal view and other WG members are welcome to add their views.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Best, Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Virtualaw LLC</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">1155 F Street, NW</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Suite 1050</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Washington, DC 20004</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-559-8597/Direct</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-559-8750/Fax</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-255-6172/cell</span></b><b><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Keating; Mary Wong; <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and document for review, for WG call on Wednesday 5 November<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks for the input.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I hope you will be on today’s call where we can touch on these matters further, But from my perspective as co-Chair I don’t perceive any “apparent desire to
treat organizations differently and to limit the work of the WG artificially”. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">No decision has been made to treat IGOs differently. The WG will be looking at the extent to which IGOs have already registered trademarks and whether there
are any meaningful barriers to other IGOs doing so. We’ll also be objectively analyzing the sovereign immunity claim. And even were we to decide that the UDRP/URS were for some reason unsuited to or not useable by IGOs, that doesn’t mean we would create a
new curative rights process just for them – so far as I’m concerned, any such new DRP would have to be based in globally recognized rights because ICANN is not in the business of creating new legal rights, and we have yet to determine whether such alternate
rights actually exist.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Finally, the draft letter to the GNSO Council responding to the GAC Communique illustrates that we shall not be letting the GAC artificially limit the scope
of our work; we intend to faithfully and objectively carry out the Council’s mandate as expressed in the Resolution that established this WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I hope that allays your concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Very best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Virtualaw LLC</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">1155 F Street, NW</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Suite 1050</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Washington, DC 20004</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-559-8597/Direct</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-559-8750/Fax</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">202-255-6172/cell</span><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mary Wong; <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and document for review, for WG call on Wednesday 5 November<br><b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">I wanted to provide the following prior to the upcoming call.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">I am still bothered by the apparent desire to treat organizations differently and to limit the work of the WG artificially (IMO). I am concerned doing so will
lead to (a) further work, (b) inconsistent conclusions and treatment, and (c) an eventual watering down of the dispute process and the rights of registrants.. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">In reviewing the following please remember that the value of domain names is continuing to increase and they will become more prominently used by serious businesses.
In other words, we are no longer in the days of presuming the problem is squatters and the like.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">I see three (3) issues here:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">1.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>Standing (what it takes to participate in the curative process)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">2.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>Immunity issues (the apparent waiver caused by the complainant's selection pif the Mutual Jurisdiction) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">3.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>Costs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">STANDING:<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>It seems to me that there is a single standing threshold to be met here for any curative rights – namely a trademark. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Whether that mark exists as a function of registration under national law or under some vague concept of common law (which the UDRP panels have applied even as
to complainants in civil law jurisdictions with no "common law" trademark jurisprudence) makes little or no difference be cause the existence of the trademark is the most basic of standing requirements. Treaties are not a separate form of law as treaties
only have meaning as adopted by the national laws of those States who are signatories to the treaty. In short there is no "international executive or legislative branch". Thus, any protection granted by treaty must be in turn founded in the national laws
of the signing states. Thus, bits of the Paris Convention is included as part of the Lanham Act.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">If a complainant (whether an IGO, INGO, or any other person or entity) cannot establish this threshold then there should be no further discussion. To hold otherwise
means that we are now embarking on creating a new curative rights mechanism with a new standing criteria. This would be highly problematic for the reasons we have all discussed and I do not believe doing so would be consistent with any mandate received.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">So, it seems to me we can logically deal with each type of person/entity under the same standing requirement. We have no need to discriminate here.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">This leaves us with two subsequent issues to face – immunity and costs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">IMMUNITY. As I noted in an earlier email, immunity is not absolute and a waiver in one instance is not a waiver for all instances. Thus, a State is immune unless
it is engaging in activities not relevant to governance (e.g. Airlines). The government loses its immunity as to matters concerning the operation of the airline but not otherwise. In this case, the issue is registration of the domain name. The question
is by whom.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">
</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Registration by INGO/IGO, etc.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>In this case the complainant has already agreed to the traditional RA which incorporates the UDRP and other provisions. I would argue that the act of registration already waived immunity issues at least to the extent concerning the contractual relationship
(with the registrar). As far as any curative rights proceeding, that would automatically occur as a matter of law when the IGO/INGO filed a complaint and selected the Mutual Jurisdiction. However, that wavier occurred ONLY with respect to the nature of the
action – a dispute over a domain. Courts are intelligent enough to see through an attempt to expand liability beyond that point. So, I really do not see this as a huge issue warranting a separate process. And, if it were, it could be aided by either amending
the RULES of procedure clarifying that by consenting the the MJ, the consent is only as to the issues pertaining to domain name registration. In other words, the MJ provision could limit any potential exposure of the IGO/INGO. This could be done without
requiring changes to the the UDRP itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">
</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Registration by third party (protective rights of IGO/INGO).<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>In the case in which a third party registers a domain the IGO/INGO believes to be infringing, existing mechanisms are sufficient. The IGO/INGO can participate with TMCH to the extent it otherwise qualifies. Again, if it holds no trademark rights, it
has no standing any any curative rights mechanism. I see no reason to allow them special treatment to receive notice when they cannot do anything about the registration. Thus, if they qualify they can have appropriate notice and determine whether or not
to file a claim using existing curative rights mechanisms.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">COSTS. Someone has to pay for the process. Just because entities do good things does not remove them from economic reality. Nor does it give us the right
to impose a "tax" on someone else to cover the costs that the IGO/INGO does not want to (or perhaps even cannot) pay. I am not expecting any of the ADR providers to jump up an volunteer – even WIPO which itself is an IGO who one would think should assist
its "brethren". This leaves ICANN or the respondent. ICANN is a doubtful funding agent as it sets a very dangerous precedent for them. Again, the respondent should not be made to pay this amount and even if we attempted to impose it upon registrants they
could easily escape it by registering their domains for 10 years prior to the effective date of any change (remember we are able only to impose this "new" system as a matter of contract via the RAA and the RA. So this returns us to the point that regardless
of their good deeds, unless an IGO or INGO can get the law firm to donate time and filing fees, it simply cannot afford to take advantage of the process. This is nothing new and both claimants and defendants (even those with VERY good claims) are regularly
denied access to the wheels of justice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Erosion of Standards:<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>I remain concerned as well that by separating out various entities we run the risk of treating them inconsistently. The tendency here may be to have the rules for each entity group be slightly different. This will lead to confusion and conflict. The
UDRP has already become so watered down that the language of the 1st element (which is a standard term of art for trademark disputes) has become nothing more than a "standing" hurdle that a worm could cross without much trouble. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">So, I return again to my original point which is why distinguish? It makes no sense unless we are embarking on the establishment of a new standing requirement.
I have not heard any consensus views in favor of such a process. Hence the "consensus" to differentiate makes little sense from a logical perspective and will only make further work for someone down the road, potentially leading to inconsistencies that we
will all regret.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://law.es/"><span style="color:purple">Law.es</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); ">Tel. +1.415.937.0846 (US)</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Skype: Prk-Spain</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">email: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span style="color:purple">Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT OR WORK-PRODUCT PRIVILEGE. THE INFORMATION
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:45 AM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and document for review, for WG call on Wednesday 5 November<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dear WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">The agenda for our next meeting, on Wednesday 5 November, is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ol start="1" type="1"><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Roll Call/Updates to SOI<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Discussion of questions to be sent to the GNSO Council/GAC-GNSO Liaison for follow up on the GAC’s Los Angeles Communique (see attached draft document from the WG Co-Chairs)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Discussion of possible distinction between: (a) IGOs & INGOs; (b) the Red Cross and IOC compared to other INGOs<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Next steps<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">WG Co-Chair Petter Rindforth will chair the meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thanks and cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Senior Policy Director<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Telephone: +1 603 574 4892<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Email:
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