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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Philip Corwin:With ICANN, any given day can be a Fool's Day ;-)<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> lori Schulman:yes, I am now Senior Director for Internet policy for INTA<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> lori Schulman:I need to change my SOI. I haven't done that yet. lots to do.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> lori Schulman:I will do it after our meeting.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> lori Schulman:Thank you David. I appreciate that knowing you are a recovering TM lawyer.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Kathy Kleiman:makes sense - tx for the discussion!<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> lori Schulman:thank you Phil. I am very excited.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:Didn't we send a letter to the GNSO Council saying that INGOs were off the table?<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:Thanks, Phil.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Mary Wong:Note also that the Council may well amend (expand/limit/edit) our proposed language<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Kathy Kleiman:yes, agree<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Mary Wong:The actual Secretariat language on Phil's point is: "As stated earlier, the requirement for UDRP complainants to submit to a “mutual jurisdiction”
does not prevent either party from initiating court litigation elsewhere. Similarly, a State’s submission to de novo arbitration should not restrict either party’s recourse to a national court of justice (even though, for a respondent, this option might
be rather theoretical if the State successfully asserts immunity from jurisdiction). However, once the respondent has initiated a de novo arbitration procedure and thus concluded the arbitration agreement, the dispute would have to be finally determined by
arbitration."<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:Ontario's consumer protection act, which I've mentioned before, makes those clauses void.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:I'm sure similar laws exist elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> George Kirikos:Here's NY state legislation making mandatory arbitration clauses void in some instances </span><a href="http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GBS/26/399-c"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GBS/26/399-c</span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:Phil's hand is up.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Kathy Kleiman:tread water - good term!<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Mary Wong:From time travel to treading water - Phil's on a roll<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> George Kirikos:See you all in two weeks. Have a great day, everyone.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Kathy Kleiman:tx for the meeting!<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Val Sherman:thanks All!<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><font size="3"> Philip Corwin:Bye all<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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