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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Please find the MP3 recording for IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 1600 UTC at: </font><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-01apr15-en.mp3" style="font-size: medium;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-01apr15-en.mp3</a></div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On page:</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Attendees: </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">George Kirikos - Individual</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Petter Rindforth – IPC</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Phil Corwin – BC</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Val Sherman - IPC</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jay Chapman – Individual</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jay Chapman – Individual</div>
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<div><b>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 01 April 2015:</b></div>
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<div>Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 01 April 2015</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Hi everyone.</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Hello George!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Hi Nathalie. How art thou?</div>
<div> Petter Rindforth:Hi there!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Hey Petter. How are you doing?</div>
<div> Petter Rindforth:The spring is slowly coming to Sweden, so I'm happy :-)</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Great. :-)</div>
<div> George Kirikos:My bank is a joke....30 mins on hold, grrrr.</div>
<div> Val Sherman:Hi All!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Hi Val.</div>
<div> Philip Corwin:Hello all</div>
<div> George Kirikos:lol Petter!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Welcome, Phil.</div>
<div> Philip Corwin:With ICANN, any given day can be a Fool's Day ;-)</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Sorry - didn't realize we were going through the letter</div>
<div> Mary Wong:This is the final version based on everyone's comments, which Phil and Petter will be sending to the IGO small group; they are reviewing it one last time prior to sending</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Kathy Kleiman has joined the call</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Thanks for the very helpful suggestions, George!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Here's the video with ICANN President Fadi Chehade:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGwbYljtNyI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGwbYljtNyI</a></div>
<div> Mason Cole:That's good to know, thanks Steve.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Will the GAC perhaps wait until after the next ICANN meeting (face-to-face) before responding?</div>
<div> George Kirikos:(next meeting is end of June)</div>
<div> Steve Chan:@George, I'm under the impression that it should definitely be prior to the next meeting</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Thanks, Steve.</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Lori Schulman joined the call</div>
<div> lori Schulman:sorry I am late. tough month but I am back</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Welcome back, Lori, and congrats on the new position again!</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Welcome, Lori.</div>
<div> lori Schulman:thank you.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:New position?</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Might need to update Statement of Interest?</div>
<div> George Kirikos:<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Lori+S.+Schulman+SOI">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Lori+S.+Schulman+SOI</a></div>
<div> lori Schulman:yes, I am now Senior Director for Internet policy for INTA</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Congratulations.</div>
<div> lori Schulman:I need to change my SOI. I haven't done that yet. lots to do.</div>
<div> lori Schulman:I will do it after our meeting.</div>
<div> DAvid Maher (GNSO - RySG):@ Lori CONGRATS!</div>
<div> Philip Corwin:Congrats Lori. As a member of INTA's Internet Committee I look forward to working with you in that context.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:#4 mentions 6ter</div>
<div> lori Schulman:Thank you David. I appreciate that knowing you are a recovering TM lawyer.</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:makes sense - tx for the discussion!</div>
<div> lori Schulman:thank you Phil. I am very excited.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Didn't we send a letter to the GNSO Council saying that INGOs were off the table?</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Thanks, Phil.</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Note also that the Council may well amend (expand/limit/edit) our proposed language</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:yes, agree</div>
<div> Mary Wong:The actual Secretariat language on Phil's point is: "As stated earlier, the requirement for UDRP complainants to submit to a “mutual jurisdiction” does not prevent either party from initiating court litigation elsewhere. Similarly, a State’s
submission to de novo arbitration should not restrict either party’s recourse to a national court of justice (even though, for a respondent, this option might be rather theoretical if the State successfully asserts immunity from jurisdiction). However, once
the respondent has initiated a de novo arbitration procedure and thus concluded the arbitration agreement, the dispute would have to be finally determined by arbitration."</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Ontario's consumer protection act, which I've mentioned before, makes those clauses void.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:I'm sure similar laws exist elsewhere.</div>
<div> George Kirikos:Here's NY state legislation making mandatory arbitration clauses void in some instances <a href="http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GBS/26/399-c">http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GBS/26/399-c</a></div>
<div> George Kirikos:Phil's hand is up.</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:tread water - good term!</div>
<div> Mary Wong:From time travel to treading water - Phil's on a roll</div>
<div> George Kirikos:See you all in two weeks. Have a great day, everyone.</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:tx for the meeting!</div>
<div> Val Sherman:thanks All!</div>
<div> Philip Corwin:Bye all</div>
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