<div dir="ltr">Can ICANN provide our WG with an mp3 of the meeting?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Thanks Phil, I was a week behind on email due to vacation.</p>
<p dir="ltr">OK would expand your sentiment such that any agreement on any issue relating to any of the GNSO Supermajority advice re any and all IGO issues is suspect on process grounds, due to exclusion of GNSO from this 'small group'.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The Board should learn that its out of process policy development machinations are not acceptable.</p><span class="im HOEnZb">
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</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 23, 2015 3:30 PM, "Phil Corwin" <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As I previously replied to Paul, I don’t know if Petter and I can have other WG members on this call , seeing as it is envisioned for a small group and that
will encourage a full and frank discussion. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But I do think we should work with staff to provide a full report, as well as an analysis for how the discussion may impact the task of this WG, as soon after
the call as practicable -- and schedule our next WG meeting shortly thereafter. <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Beyond that, I want all WG members to know that on this morning’s monthly GNSO Council call I raised the issue of the OECD letter during the concluding portion
of the meeting and put Council on notice that this WG was stuck in place due to lack of access to expert legal advice -- and that any “comprehensive solution” on IGO protections proposed to be put together by the Board, GAC and IC ANN staff that addressed
the CRP/second level issueraised serious process/policy development issues.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Let’s see what happens on the call and what staff can advise us in the next week or two on prospects for securing that expert input. If circumstances dictate
we may just have to take it upon ourselves to research the sovereign immunity scope question.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Finally, in advance of the call – and we are awaiting word on when that will take place – it might be useful if WG members came together on a few points that
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mike Rodenbaugh [mailto:<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" target="_blank">Paul@law.es</a> ZIMBRA<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Phil Corwin; Petter Rindforth (<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" target="_blank">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>); <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message from Petter and Phil)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please be informed that after consultation with ICANN staff we have decided to reschedule our Working Group meeting, originally planned for this Wednesday 22 July, to end-July
or early August. We are informed that the “small group” meeting between representatives of the IGO coalition and ICANN Board members was a positive one, and that an updated proposal is likely to be forwarded to the GAC and the GNSO for their review and action
by September. This is in line with the GAC’s Buenos Aires Communique and the objectives of the “small group” process when it was formed to discuss the initial March 2014 proposal from the Board’s New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC).</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
IGO coalition and Board are discussing issues that extend beyond but are related to our work.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">With the aim to facilitate further progress of the policy development process, and to take into account the context of our work, which includes the need to resolve the outstanding
inconsistencies between the GNSO’s initial policy recommendations on so-called “preventative” protections and GAC advice received on the topic, we </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">plan to hold a call very soon, along with <span style="color:black">Jonathan
Robinson as GNSO Chair, Thomas Rickert as chair of the original GNSO PDP on IGO protections, and Mason as the GAC-GNSO liaison, with Chris Disspain (Board/NGPC member) and Thomas Schneider (GAC Chair) within the coming week. The aim of the call is for us to
receive a first-hand update on the work of the “small group” and discuss the likely progress within the GNSO, GAC and Board on the overall topic of IGO protections</span><b><span style="color:#1f497d">,
</span></b>as well as how this WG relates to the larger picture. <span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:black">As such, we believe that it would be most effective and productive if we were to have our next WG meeting following this call.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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