<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div>Hello Phil and all – my apologies for misunderstanding the request; yes, of course we will check as regards recording/transcripts for the planned call with Chris and Thomas.</div><div><br></div><div>In relation to your point about policy proposals that cover (or overlap with) legacy and new gTLDs, it is certainly a point that the GNSO Council may wish to take up again with the NGPC, and perhaps a topic to bring up in the forthcoming meeting with Chris Disspain and Thomas Schneider.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, thank you for your kind words about the staff support to this WG, not just here but also publicly to the Council!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Mary </div><div><div><br></div><div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Mary Wong</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Senior Policy Director</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Telephone: +1 603 574 4889</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Email: mary.wong@icann.org</font></font></div><div><br></div></div></div><br></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 22:03<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "gnso-igo-ingo-." <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message from Petter and Phil)<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks Mary. As always, this is quite helpful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">I believe that what some WG members are asking is whether the call that Petter and I will be, consistent with ICANN’s commitment to transparency in the policy development process, on shall be recorded or transcribed; I don't believe
there was an expectation that last week's meeting in Paris hosted by OECD had been so.
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">So that's what we need staff to check on. If there is a compelling argument for not doing so then the fallback is to Petter and I with staff assistance to provide a comprehensive report to the WG -- the other parties should understand
that Petter and I would be participating in the call as the chosen representatives of this WG and have an obligation to share the discussion with its members.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">As for this part of your email ---<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> As such, the proposal referred to by the OECD in its recent letter is<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> expected to cover both the ©øpreventative©÷
<b>and ©øcurative©÷ aspects of IGO<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><b> acronym protection</b>, per the original NGPC proposal and the subsequent<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> discussions and letters between the NGPC and the GNSO Council. In line<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> with the express statement in the letter that
<b>the proposal will be<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><b> forwarded ©øfor the GNSO©ös consideration</b>, this basically would result in<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> the GNSO Council being requested once again to take up the question of<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> possible amendments to its previously adopted recommendations concerning<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> the ©øpreventative©÷ protections (per the NGPC©ös June 2014 request) and this<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> WG asked to consider the ©øcurative©÷ aspects of the proposal as part of its<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> work in developing its consensus recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">--As you noted elsewhere in your message, the “focus” of the NGPC is the NEW gTLD program (that is what the N stands for) and, so far as I am aware, they have no authority to address legacy gTLD matters. Further, as regards legacy gTLDs,
I know of nothing in the Bylaws that legitimizes a policy proposal assembled by the Board, GAC and staff being forwarded for GNSO consideration. The matter of CRP for IGO acronyms at gTLDs (and most certainly legacy gTLDs) is quite clearly a policy matter,
or else the Council resolution establishing this WG is illegitimate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Please understand that I am not prejudging the discussion on the call that Petter and I have not yet had; and also please know that your service to this WG has been exemplary and that none of this reply is directed at you personally.
But I am deeply concerned about the possibility of two competing proposals being issued as regards second level CRP for IGO acronyms, one from a group populated by IGOs that have refrained from meaningfully engaging with a WG that is dedicated to protecting
the full scope of their lawful rights, and another from this very WG which is based upon consensus agreement on relevant legal and policy facts and resulting considerations. The Council should never be placed in the position of having to choose between two
competing proposals, and I know of nothing in the Bylaws that condones such a situation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Philip<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Virtualaw LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">1155 F Street, NW<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Suite 1050<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Washington, DC 20004<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">202-559-8597/Direct<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">202-559-8750/Fax<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">202-255-6172/cell<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Twitter: @VlawDC<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Mary Wong [<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mailto:mary.wong@icann.org</a>] <br>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:22 PM<br>
To: George Kirikos; Phil Corwin<br>
Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-.<br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message from Petter and Phil)</p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Hello again everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">As the ©øsmall group©÷ isn©öt a GNSO Working Group or Cross-Community Working<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Group, the meeting was not recorded or transcribed in the same way as we<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">would do for GNSO WG/CWGs. I expect that the status of the proposal will<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">be one of the major items to be discussed on the call between Phil,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Petter, Mason, Chris Disspain and Thomas Schneider. Staff is trying to<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">confirm some possible dates for the call, and I hope we will be able to<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">find mutually agreeable times in short order. We will of course be happy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">to work with Phil, Petter and Mason to put together a report for this WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">following the call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">It may be worth noting that the IGOs, NGPC and GAC do not intend the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">updated proposal to be a directive to the GNSO, as they have each<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">expressly acknowledged the role of the GNSO in developing gTLD policy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">This was in fact a topic of discussion among the GNSO Council, the GAC and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">the Board some time ago. Additionally, the NGPC©ös original proposal - and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">the NGPC-GAC dialogue - pre-dated the formation of our WG and deals with<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">broader issues than the scope of our Charter (i.e. issues concerning<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH) and claims notice protections for IGO<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">acronyms). There are also other differences between the focus of the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">NGPC-GAC discussions being conducted through the ©øsmall group©÷ and the two<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">GNSO PDPs (including this one), primarily, the focus of the former on the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">New gTLD Program whereas the scope of the GNSO work covers both legacy and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">new gTLDs. This point was specifically noted during the GNSO Council©ös<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">discussion with Chris Disspain over extending TMCH and claims notice<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">protection for IGO acronyms last September.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">As such, the proposal referred to by the OECD in its recent letter is<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">expected to cover both the ©øpreventative©÷ and ©øcurative©÷ aspects of IGO<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">acronym protection, per the original NGPC proposal and the subsequent<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">discussions and letters between the NGPC and the GNSO Council. In line<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">with the express statement in the letter that the proposal will be<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">forwarded ©øfor the GNSO©ös consideration, this basically would result in<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">the GNSO Council being requested once again to take up the question of<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">possible amendments to its previously adopted recommendations concerning<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">the ©øpreventative©÷ protections (per the NGPC©ös June 2014 request) and this<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">WG asked to consider the ©øcurative©÷ aspects of the proposal as part of its<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">work in developing its consensus recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">I apologize if some of these points have been made previously, but I<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">thought it helpful to refer to them again here, especially for those WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">members who may not have followed the history of the topic of IGO<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">protections closely. As mentioned in another email, staff is also<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">continuing to contact those experts whose names have been put forward, to<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">find out their availability, interest and rates. Our thanks go to those WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">members, especially Jim Bikoff, who have been very helpful in this regards.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Mary<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Senior Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Email: <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">From: <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</span></a>> on behalf of George Kirikos<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">icann@leap.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 18:58<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">To: Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">psc@vlaw-dc.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-." <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">from Petter and Phil)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>They should make a transcript, too, just like our normal conference<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>calls. It's much easier/faster to review and reference a written<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>transcript.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>George Kirikos<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>416-588-0269<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="http://www.leap.com/"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.leap.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">psc@vlaw-dc.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Mary/Steve:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Aside from the time/date, can you inquire whether that is possible?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Thanks, Philip<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Philip S. 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</o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> From: <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> [<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Paul<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>Tattersfield<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:48 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> from Petter and Phil)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Can ICANN provide our WG with an mp3 of the meeting?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Thanks Phil, I was a week behind on email due to vacation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> OK would expand your sentiment such that any agreement on any issue<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>relating<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> to any of the GNSO Supermajority advice re any and all IGO issues is<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>suspect<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> on process grounds, due to exclusion of GNSO from this 'small group'.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> The Board should learn that its out of process policy development<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> machinations are not acceptable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> tel/fax +1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> On Jul 23, 2015 3:30 PM, "Phil Corwin" <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">psc@vlaw-dc.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Mike:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> As I previously replied to Paul, I don©öt know if Petter and I can have<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>other<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> WG members on this call , seeing as it is envisioned for a small group<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> that will encourage a full and frank discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> But I do think we should work with staff to provide a full report, as<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>well<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> as an analysis for how the discussion may impact the task of this WG, as<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> soon after the call as practicable -- and schedule our next WG meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> shortly thereafter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Beyond that, I want all WG members to know that on this morning©ös<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>monthly<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> GNSO Council call I raised the issue of the OECD letter during the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> concluding portion of the meeting and put Council on notice that this<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>WG was<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> stuck in place due to lack of access to expert legal advice -- and that<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>any<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> ©øcomprehensive solution©÷ on IGO protections proposed to be put together<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>by<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> the Board, GAC and IC ANN staff that addressed the CRP/second level<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> issueraised serious process/policy development issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Let©ös see what happens on the call and what staff can advise us in the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>next<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> week or two on prospects for securing that expert input. If<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>circumstances<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> dictate we may just have to take it upon ourselves to research the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>sovereign<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> immunity scope question.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Finally, in advance of the call ¡© and we are awaiting word on when that<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>will<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> take place ¡© it might be useful if WG members came together on a few<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>points<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> that they want Petter and I to emphasize when we engage in that<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Philip<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Philip S. 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Petter Rindforth (<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</span></a>);<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Rescheduling WG call this week (message<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> from Petter and Phil)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Me too, thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:15 AM, <a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Paul@law.es</span></a> ZIMBRA <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">paul@law.es</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Phil, I would very much like to be able to listen to this call or<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>otherwise<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> participate to the extent you feel appropriate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Paul Keating<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> On 21 Jul 2015, at 3:15 am, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> [Sending the email below on behalf of Petter Rindforth and Philip<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>Corwin, WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> co-chairs]<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Dear WG members,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Please be informed that after consultation with ICANN staff we have<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>decided<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> to reschedule our Working Group meeting, originally planned for this<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Wednesday 22 July, to end-July or early August. We are informed that the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> ©øsmall group©÷ meeting between representatives of the IGO coalition and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>ICANN<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Board members was a positive one, and that an updated proposal is<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>likely to<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> be forwarded to the GAC and the GNSO for their review and action by<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> September. This is in line with the GAC©ös Buenos Aires Communique and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> objectives of the ©øsmall group©÷ process when it was formed to discuss<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> initial March 2014 proposal from the Board©ös New gTLD Program Committee<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> (NGPC). The IGO coalition and Board are discussing issues that extend<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>beyond<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> but are related to our work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> With the aim to facilitate further progress of the policy development<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> process, and to take into account the context of our work, which<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>includes<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> the need to resolve the outstanding inconsistencies between the GNSO©ös<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> initial policy recommendations on so-called ©øpreventative©÷ protections<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>and<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> GAC advice received on the topic, we plan to hold a call very soon,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>along<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> with Jonathan Robinson as GNSO Chair, Thomas Rickert as chair of the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> original GNSO PDP on IGO protections, and Mason as the GAC-GNSO liaison,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> with Chris Disspain (Board/NGPC member) and Thomas Schneider (GAC Chair)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> within the coming week. The aim of the call is for us to receive a<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> first-hand update on the work of the ©øsmall group©÷ and discuss the<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>likely<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> progress within the GNSO, GAC and Board on the overall topic of IGO<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> protections, as well as how this WG relates to the larger picture. As<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>such,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> we believe that it would be most effective and productive if we were to<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>have<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> our next WG meeting following this call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> We will provide more details and a tentative time for the next WG call<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>as<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Petter and Phil<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> ________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> No virus found in this message.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.avg.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4392/10258 - Release Date:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>07/18/15<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> ________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> No virus found in this message.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.avg.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4392/10258 - Release Date:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>>07/18/15<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></span></body></html>