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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find the attendance and MP3 recording along with the AC recording and chat below for the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting held on Thursday, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">11
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mp3: </span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-crp-pdp-11may17-en.mp3" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-crp-pdp-11may17-en.mp3</a></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">AC Recording: </span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p23uuk35dy3/" style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: 14px;">https://participate.icann.org/p23uuk35dy3/</a></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">George Kirikos – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jay Chapman – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mailing list archives: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/" style="color: purple;">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">11 May 2017<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Thursday, 11 May 2017 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ow7fAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=UG-AybICZb7YLHzYVOpChNvEHlMhetn5cYTXlWYA0kA&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ow7fAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=UG-AybICZb7YLHzYVOpChNvEHlMhetn5cYTXlWYA0kA&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hi folks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:HI George & All</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hi Petter.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter 2:Hello Petter and George!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hi Michelle.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:Hi there - hope we will soon see more participants</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter 2:I just sent out another reminder to the group :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:Thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:I am waiting on operator</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:What's the quorum for a PDP? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Welcome, Phil.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter 2:I will let them know you are waiting for an operator to answer</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Thanks George</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Hello everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Welcome Paul.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:waiting as well...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:On call now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:same here</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Hola</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Steve Chan has his hand up</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:We've gone through much of it already.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:This is better than Mary's regular connection. :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:External legal advice on 6ter: OECD, UN, UPU, WHO & WIPO: regarding the consultation of a legal expert, my (Jonathan Passaro, OECD) IGO colleagues share the OECD’s concern that such an exercise
will significantly prolong what has already been an extensive and resource-intensive process.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Page 10.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Oops, maybe 9.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Even page 7.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:<a href="http://www.newyorkconvention.org/11165/web/files/original/1/5/15432.pdf">http://www.newyorkconvention.org/11165/web/files/original/1/5/15432.pdf</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Keating:It applies to ANY arbitration.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:It covers recognition by a national court of an arbitration decision.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:commercial disputes?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:It seems to just be a general thing, not specific to IGOs, saying that arbitrations might be recognized. Note there are exceptions when it can't be recognized, e.g. Article V(2).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:It is not specific to IGOs.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Keating:@Phil, This is a set of standards which if met means that the arbitration award can be enforced as a judgment in ANY country that has signed the convention. Nothing more.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:All this says is that if both parties agree to arbitration, then courts can recognize the decisions. Nothing really magical.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:We will circulate the treaty text as well as the previously-circulated UNCITRAL Arbitration Rules.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Article 1.3 is interesting, as it mentions that States can limit it to commercial disputes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:Those offering the arbitration (some examples): <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__iccwbo.org_about-2Dus_who-2Dwe-2Dare_dispute-2Dresolution_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=JnXH403sh2c08wm6A_UYJt67Y0EDqnJJIrGZf1jubLk&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__iccwbo.org_about-2Dus_who-2Dwe-2Dare_dispute-2Dresolution_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=JnXH403sh2c08wm6A_UYJt67Y0EDqnJJIrGZf1jubLk&e=</a> , <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.swissarbitration.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=aoSQ_TvKRx0OwE4pYWFiwsBVHUoblau_eg6i2IJwy_U&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.swissarbitration.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=aoSQ_TvKRx0OwE4pYWFiwsBVHUoblau_eg6i2IJwy_U&e=</a> , <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sccinstitute.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=tHXCCTAI9kCtwJZLDQxnAaxU_bwkfLJQxyjt-7Iil_A&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sccinstitute.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=OrVQnHzYFFuu6Z-VvWOTLpJbs9iHXEZp5o7JcCff6qw&s=tHXCCTAI9kCtwJZLDQxnAaxU_bwkfLJQxyjt-7Iil_A&e=</a> ,
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:George :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:As said, we already have the IGO input and majority support for arbitrration</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:The arbitration would also be assuming that the relevant "law" is the UDRP (with its remedies like transfer), vs. national courts who could interpret the ACPA, etc.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(with money damages, etc.)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:A separate DRP would also be replacing national law with a process that takes away a registrant's rights, if it cannot be appealed to the courts.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Imposing binding arbitration means that the status quo, whereby the existence of a UDRP doesn't interfere with either party's legal rights, would be upset.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(i.e under the status quo, legal rights in national courts are not affected)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:+1 Paul</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:It would be a contract of adhesion to impose arbitration for that 3rd party beneficiary.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:What have registrants gained, in "agreeing" to such a bargain? Nothing.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Option 1 is the only solution to preserve the status quo legal rights of all parties.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@George, there are ways to deal with that - e.g. have the registrant choose whether to agree to binding arbitration when the complaint is filed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:@Mary: the registrant can agree to binding arbitration even without the UDRP.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:However, the IGOs are talking about taking away that voluntary choice.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:We already advised IGOs that they can use an assignee, agent, licensee.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:It's the IGOs choice if they don't want to shield themselves.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mason Cole:All, I've been called away from this call. Speak to all soon.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Bye Mason.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:We shouldn't let politics decide our analysis.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:Whatever we decide, it much better to have a majority or full support for one solutions, rather than give it the the GNSO Council to decide</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:I agree on Option 2</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:It wouldn't permit cybersquatting to continue. The governments or national authorities or IGOs could still use the courts (as they can if the UDRP didn't exist).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Right, Paul --- no TM holder would agree to binding arbitration, instead of accepting the courts.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jay Chapman:exactly, Paul</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:There's no principled reason to create a new policy for domains, unlike TMs themselves.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Paul, yes - this kind of recommendation is within the remit of our WG. If we go with Option 2, all that you are suggesting can be specified.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@George, on your last point - if we go down that path, there will likely need to be some kind of notice to a registrant that if he/she is the respondent to a complaint, he/she may be asked to submit to
binding arbitration. This is similar to what I said in chat earlier.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Option 2 doesn't even end the story, since a registrant could then sue the IGO in court, once it obtained the domain name.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Since IGOs are bound by the registrar-registrant agreement.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Option 2 would mean also having to modify every registration agreement??</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:"GOVERNING LAW. THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE GOVERNED BY AND INTERPRETED AND ENFORCED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND THE FEDERAL LAWS OF CANADA APPLICABLE THEREIN WITHOUT REFERENCE
TO RULES GOVERNING CHOICE OF LAWS. ANY ACTION RELATING TO THIS AGREEMENT MUST BE BROUGHT IN ONTARIO AND YOU IRREVOCABLY CONSENT TO THE JURISDICTION OF SUCH COURTS."</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:<a href="http://www.loffs.com/Domains/Legal/master.html">http://www.loffs.com/Domains/Legal/master.html</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Is every registrar going to be forced to rewrite their agreements, to say disputes for IGOs are different? (if Option 2 is supported)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:"Remedies of the panel" -- implies that the UDRP is the relevant law, which is untenable.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:That staff report was already rejected by the community in the past. Which circumstances changed? Other than the introduction of the failed new gTLD program, nothing.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@George, it wasn't so much rejected as that the GNSO at the time did not proceed with a PDP in which that text would be discussed. As there was no PDP, there was no substantive discussion on it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:One other point I forgot to make ---- if the GAC is so concerned, why is it there are no ccTLDs we're aware of that create a special procedure for IGOs?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(GAC members could certainly impose such policies within their own countries, but don't)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Can we have a straw poll on Option 1 vs Option 2 at this point?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:e.g. checkmark for Option 1, X for option 2?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@George, there are only 5 WG members on the call so not sure that would indicate much</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(we know Phil is leaning to option 2)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Would be interesting to see where we stand, for those here.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Petter, thanks - much appreciated )</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong::)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:May 25th?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:OK we will send a note to the mailing list</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Bye folks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:thanks all, bye everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Keating:thank you all. Good bye</div>
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