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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“By creating an independent arbitration process for NGOs you are (a) contradicting not one but at least two of founding principles of the UDRP.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Personal comment: The post-judicial granting of immunity/dismissal of litigation arbitration option is being proposed for the benefit of domain registrants, not IGOs, to assure
some meaningful appeal process when the judicial route is foreclosed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But if there is not consensus support for that option we can stick to present policy and leave them without recourse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David W. Maher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating <Paul@law.es>; petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu; George Kirikos <icann@leap.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Consolidated results of informal poll constituting preliminary consensus call on Options A-C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">For additional history of the UDRP, see:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://dmaher.org/Publications/globaliz.pdf">http://dmaher.org/Publications/globaliz.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David W. Maher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Public Interest Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>; George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Consolidated results of informal poll constituting preliminary consensus call on Options A-C<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I do wish to point out that the UDRP was not intended to create rights that did not exist prior to the UDRP. This is in the founding WIPO report that was adopted
by ICANN with a great deal of grandeur. The 1999 Report also stated as a foundational position that respondents were to retain their day in court.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">NGOs existed prior to the UDRP. Prior to the UDRP the only means by which they could enforce rights as against a domain name registrant was to commence litigation
(either directly or indirectly via a stalking horse/assignee, etc). Pre-UDRP there was no basis for forcing the respondent into any form of arbitration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The UDRP was thoughtfully created to grant the right to litigate de novo. The Policy references such litigation in several places and the consent to Mutual Jurisdiction
is expressly limited to the dispute concerning the domain name. From this several sound legal principles have arisen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">1.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>Policy 4(k) does not itself create an independent right of action. A losing respondent must still find a statutory basis upon which to rest its claim. This has been recognized in virtually all post-UDRP cases including those in the UK (note the Yoyo
decision among others).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">2.<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>The Mutual Jurisdiction certification does not extend beyond the reversal of the UDRP decision. The certification does not itself grant personal jurisdiction over the Complainant (now defendant) for any other form of claim. This precludes the awarding
of monetary damages other than costs unless there is an independent claim to base it upon or the court has personal jurisdiction over the Complainant/defendant independently of the MJ certification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">By creating an independent arbitration process for NGOs you are (a) contradicting not one but at least two of founding principles of the UDRP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">With all respect, I have yet to see any argument in favor of the positions currently being promoted by the Chairs – other than (a) the Board/GAC/IGOs want it that
way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">And, now that George has surfaced an actual study comparing tech costs of arbitration to traditional litigation, there seems absolutely no credible reason to continue
to support the private arbitration suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I invite ANYONE to provide evidence to the contrary. And by evidence I mean that – not assumptions or beliefs but facts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Petter Rindforth <<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 12:22 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Consolidated results of informal poll constituting preliminary consensus call on Options A-C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear George,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I think you have made it continuously clear that you are in favour of Option A. And, as a WG member, you are of course free to explain why you voted for Option
A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">However, the fact is that we not just only have a clear majority support for Option C (9 supports and 2 that can live with it), compared to Option A (5 supports
and 1 that can live with it), it is also clear that there is a majority against Option A (8 does not support), compared to Option C (3 does not support).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This is not just Philip’s and mine arguments, it is the pure fact.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I can fully understand that, as in all voting cases, it may sometimes be hard to understand why a majority has other thoughts about a specific topic.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">And all WG members had (and have) their freedom to further explain and argue their support for a specific solution/option. As you say George, sometimes a support
for one specified option needs more detailed explanation, where other options may be more clear, "fair and balanced".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">As to Option 6: As you may recall, you have made the presentation during our WG meetings, and we (the full WG) have discussed it. As you also may recall, the conclusion
within our WG meetings was that not all courts would accept that, independently of what the parties have agreed upon. During last call, we invited you to - during the upcoming week – provide us (the WG) with your suggestion on your proposed specific solution
to be added to the current description of the arbitration option for consideration by the WG.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">17 november 2017 20:16:33 +01:00, skrev George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This demonstrates that it's fear-mongering by the co-chairs and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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