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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Zak:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks for your input.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Speaking personally, I believe that the issue of a registrant’s access to judicial appeal is an appropriate topic for the RPM Review
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">However, I continue to believe that it is not relevant to the remaining policy issue we are considering, which deals with a hypothetical
in which a registrant has undertaken a judicial appeal and the IGO has subsequently and successfully asserted immunity from the authority of that court. I also believe that after three and a half years work it would be an abrogation of this WG’s responsibility
to attempt to kick the IGO immunity issue to a separate WG that already has a more than full plate of Charter responsibilities. Whatever we decide, I hope we can recommend something on that central issue.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zak Muscovitch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Maher, David <dmaher@pir.org>; Paul Keating <Paul@law.es>; Mike Rodenbaugh <mike@rodenbaugh.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_GoBack"></a><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just a note to express my hope that this WG will be able to amicably resolve the procedural issues forthwith so that the WG may be wrapped up. Also, I wish
to reiterate my view that the WG has identified a fundamental issue that goes to the heart of the UDRP, namely how to maintain registrant’s long-standing right of access to the court system, and accordingly there are broader implications which prevent us from
addressing some IGO concerns in a vacuum. This fundamental issue is beyond the scope of this WG and is an issue for the RPM WG, and as such as previously proposed, this matter should be deferred to the RPM WG which has the mandate to handle issues which affect
registrants and which may require revisions to the UDRP.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David W. Maher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> January-14-18 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating; Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I did not request anonymous polling. It’s OK so far as I am concerned. I still think the group is wasting time on this issue.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David W. Maher</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Senior Vice-President – Law & Policy</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Paul Keating [<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">mailto:Paul@law.es</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> David W. Maher <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org">dmaher@pir.org</a>>; Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I agree with you. Would you be willing to drop your request that the polling be anonymous?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Or at least share with us why you think it should be?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"David W. Maher" <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org">dmaher@pir.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, January 12, 2018 at 9:22 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> think the group is wasting time arguing about procedure</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David W. Maher</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Senior Vice-President – Law & Policy</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Mike Rodenbaugh [<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 12, 2018 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David W. Maher <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org">dmaher@pir.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>; <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">
gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hi David,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Always good to hear from you. Can you explain why, briefly?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mike</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:00 PM, David W. Maher <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org" target="_blank">dmaher@pir.org</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I support the use of an anonymous poll.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David W. Maher</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Senior Vice-President – Law & Policy</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp
[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 12, 2018 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Agreed this is ridiculous. Does anyone except Petter and Phil support an anonymous poll of this WG? I don't recall seeing any other support for it, so
I am flabbergasted by their extraordinary efforts to force one on the WG.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">The underlying dispute was the objection to the use of an anonymous poll. The main objection (at least from my understanding) was the anonymous part which
leads to inaccuracies and potential abuse.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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to resolve conflict by listening to the objections involved in the appeal, the substantive discussion was aborted so a “record” could be created.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Of course this also means that the WG CONTINUES TO BE STALLED. Why the process must be stalled because of the insistence to use anonymous polling is rather
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">As said, my 2 cents.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 12 Jan 2018, at 18:17, Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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For the record, I disagree with George's characterization that he was "interrupted immediately".
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What occurred was that George submitted a 12-page document with 28 footnotes that arrived by email just 76 minutes prior to the start of the call. I had no opportunity to read much less consider its content prior to the call.<br>
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When the call commenced I asked for mutual agreement that, given the length of the document and the fact that it arrived without advance notice, the co-chairs be accorded the courtesy of being given a few days after conclusion of the call to fully consider
its contents and to respond in writing if they wished to do so. I expected this request to be noncontroversial but it proved otherwise.
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From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of George Kirikos<br>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 AM<br>
To: gnso-igo-ingo-. <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs<br>
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Hi folks,<br>
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The archive of yesterday's call, to appeal the use of anonymous polling within this working group has been posted by ICANN. Notice how my presentation was interrupted immediately, and then we got completely bogged down by process issues. Another call is scheduled
for next week.<br>
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<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/...+Working+Group" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/...+Working+Group</a><br>
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[The best link to use is the "AC Recording" (shows the chatroom, and audio, as well as ability to jump back/forth using the controls at the bottom).]<br>
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Have a nice weekend!<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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George Kirikos<br>
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:33 PM, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">(09:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 17:00 London GMT, 18:00 Paris CET) that I was
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