<div dir="auto">+1 Paul<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sincerely, <br>Jay Chapman<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 24, 2018 5:41 AM, "Paul Tattersfield" <<a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com">gpmgroup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thank you Mary for confirming the history, that is helpful.<br><br>I think it shows the dangers of ICANN building policy based on the principle of relying on third party lists especially ones subject to regular revision over time. <br><br>Gong (2011)<br>Karp (2012)<br>Mosaic (2013)<br>Witness (2013)<br>Rare (2015)<br>Restored (2016)<br><br>I think it also demonstrates how bad policy can evolve out of trying to create quick fix solutions only perceived as necessary as a result of other unrelated flawed approaches.<br><br>Not good – someone should have been on top of this.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br><br>Paul.<br><br></div><div class="elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Mary Wong <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Paul and everyone,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The list of INGOs is that of the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and the GNSO PDP recommendation was to use the ECOSOC list. As such, it is not up to ICANN to make changes to that list; additions, modifications and
deletions are determined under the applicable UN rules for organizations obtaining or maintaining recognition (e.g. general or consultative status) with ECOSOC. The staff understanding is that any updates needing to be made to the ICANN list as a result of
changes to the ECOSOC list will be handled through the UN’s Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mary<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@ica<wbr>nn.org</a>> on behalf of Paul Tattersfield <<a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpmgroup@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 14:03<br>
<b>To: </b>"gnso-igo-ingo-." <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Is the INGO Identifier List subject to revisions?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>Is the recently published INGO Identifier List subject to revisions?
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</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_sites_default_files_packages_reserved-2Dnames_ingo-2Didentifier-2Dlist.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=ZHelugwDlnz3X92N6KrDyyvuK2Rzt6IFt7uLvTr9ZM4&s=Nhzg0poKNZr6aRnDjt917fA-WZ0KJ58OTvEXOmsXMuk&e=" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/sites/de<wbr>fault/files/packages/reserved-<wbr>names/ingo-identifier-list.<wbr>xml[icann.org]</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A cursory look shows names like<u></u><u></u></p>
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gong<br>
karp<br>
mosaic<br>
rare<br>
restored<br>
witness<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gong is an acronym for Gradani organizirano nadgledaju glasan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Karp is an acronym for The Korean Association of Retired Persons<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Moisaic is a branding for More Mosaic NGO & Mosaic International NGO<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Including rare, restored & witness doesn't sit well with the principal of coexistence.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul.<u></u><u></u></p>
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