<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All—<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'd also like to reiterate my position regarding the options. My vote toward consensus is as follows:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Option 1: YES<br class="">Option 2: NO<br class="">Option 3: NO<br class="">Option 4: GRUDGINGLY YES IF NECESSARY<br class="">Option 5: NO<br class="">Option 6: NEEDS REFINEMENT BUT MIGHT WORK<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My reasoning is:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Option 1 seems the most reasonable under the circumstances and the most fair to both parties to such a dispute.<br class=""><br class="">If, for some reason, option 1 is absolutely untenable, I would grudgingly support option 4. I note, however, that, in order to not be seen as entirely buck-passing with regard to our remit, we ought rather to submit to the RPM WG a strong recommendation to proceed with option 1.<br class=""><br class="">(Option 2 I find unacceptable because I don't find most recent registration date to be sufficiently determinative of an end user's intent to abrogate their rights. Option 3 would be far more elegant if there were simply an appeal process built into URS/UDRP but there isn't, since a losing party can appeal to local courts…except where an IGO is involved. Option 5 is acceptable but in light of the perfectly-reasonable option 4 as a poorer alternative to option 1, unnecessary. Option 6 might be acceptable but would require further refinement.)<br class=""><br class="">I am also vehemently opposed to any subsidization of any party's costs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I look forward to seeing how many votes each option received.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Reg<br class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 08 Jun 2018, at 04:51, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" class="">Paul@law.es</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; font-size: 26px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Petter and Mary,</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">I have been unable to respond to prior emails this week. However, I wanted to reiterate my position regarding the various options. Below is my email of May 8, 2018. My response to #6 was subsequently modified to a Yes, Accordingly, please note my consensus votes as follows:</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 1: YES</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 2: NO</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 3: NO</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 4: YES</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 5: NO</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 6: YES</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">In case I am unable to attend the upcoming call please note the above for the record.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Thank you,</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: 12px; font-family: Calibri;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Sincerely,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class=""><a href="http://law.es/" style="color: purple; " class="">Law.es</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); " class="">Tel. +1.415.937.0846 (US)</span></b></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Fax. 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It</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">leaves the IGO with the complete freedom of choice (just as it had in</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">filing the UDRP). The consequence (voiding the UDRP) is a simple and</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">easily understood consequence of seeking the benefit of immunity AND does</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">not bog us down in discussions as to whether immunity existed or whether</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">it had already been waived by the IGO via the UDRP filing.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 2: NO.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Although a nice attempt to seek compromise, I found it too confusing and</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">feared it would lead to us becoming bogged down in discussion over details.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 3: NO.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">I am most opposed to the idea of this WG attempting to create any form of</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">alternative dispute system. This is more appropriately addressed by a</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">wider and more fully functioning WG such as that addressing the RPM.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 4: YES.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">I am fully in favor of suggesting that the other WG handle this matter.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">They are a larger group with more professionals on board. They are also</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">experienced in tackling complex issues. I know this because I am a member</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">of both this and the RPM WG.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 5: NO.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Issues of ³in rem² and declaratory relief are inherently common law</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">principles and are not shared by many jurisdictions, including those based</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">upon civil law (that which looks only to statutes and not to prior</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">judicial decisions as the reference point). This would require too much</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">discussion by this WG to achieve true consensus as to what is or is not</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">involved in turning this option into the more robust descriptions</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">necessary. Also, I have had no difficulty in dealing with post-UDRP</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">claims based upon this distinction (suing a party or suing a thing). I</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">also am unsure if a US in rem action would be permitted to continue in the</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">absence of an IGO that successfully asserted sovereign immunity. So,</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">overall, too complex for this WG given its directive.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 6: NO.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">I STRONGLY favor any form of mediation and have previously provided my</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">thoughts and concerns over the Nominet program. I ENCOURAGE Brian and</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">anyone else (at either WIPO or NAF) to initiate such a program.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Initiating such a program would not require any modification to to the</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">UDRP as it could be entirely voluntary. HOWEVER, to the extent that this</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Option 6 would require discussion and consensus surrounding the rules</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">underlying an obligatory mediation program, such is beyond the scope of</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">this WG and not likely to have a successful outcome, particularly given</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">what has been transpiring in this WG to date.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">So, there you have my thoughts.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">I ENCOURAGE all WG members to respond to George¹s email regardless of your</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">views.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Sincerely,</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><a href="http://Law.es" class="">Law.es</a> <<a href="http://law.es/" class="">http://law.es/</a>></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Tel. +1.415.937.0846 (US)</div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Fax. 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