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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 Jun 2018, at 15:00, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" class="">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Actually, I spoke too soon. For Recommendation #2, the text was<br class="">changed (to what I initially thought was acceptable), but it only<br class="">captured *part* of the change, not the full change. i.e. my change<br class="">was:<br class=""><br class="">"An IGO may consider this to be an option where it does not have<br class="">registered trademark rights or service mark rights in its name or<br class="">acronym (as applicable) but believes it has certain unregistered<br class="">trademark or service marks rights for which it might adduce….."<br class=""><br class="">But this new document instead says:<br class=""><br class="">"An IGO may consider this to be an option where it does not have<br class="">registered trademark rights or service mark rights in its name or<br class="">acronym (as applicable) but believes it has certain unregistered<br class="">rights for which it might adduce….."<br class=""><br class="">i.e. the *second* "trademark or service" marks is *missing* from this<br class="">new version. So, unless the wording is changed again, count me as *NOT<br class="">SUPPORT* of this text.<br class=""><br class="">I'm going to go through this more thoroughly later, and consolidate<br class="">all future comments into a single email.<br class=""><br class="">Sincerely,<br class=""><br class="">George Kirikos<br class="">416-588-0269<br class=""><a href="http://www.leap.com/" class="">http://www.leap.com/</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">This is late, and given what I've posted the past few days, one would<br class="">have expected it to have been triple-checked for accuracy, etc. I went<br class="">directly to Recommendation #2, and noticed I'm now listed as "Support"<br class="">and Paul Tattersfield is listed as "do not support" (whereas in the<br class="">document before this, sent by Petter, both Paul T. and I were listed<br class="">as "do not support"):<br class=""><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001238.html<br class=""><br class="">Here was my comment:<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001219.html<br class=""><br class="">and Paul T's: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001237.html<br class=""><br class="">both of us wanted slight changing of the wording.<br class=""><br class="">So, I see that the document that Steve circulated *does* change the<br class="">wording, so my "Support" in the new document is accurate. But, then<br class="">since Paul T agreed with me (and presumably agrees with the new text),<br class="">why is he still listed as "Do Not Support"???<br class=""><br class="">Also, we know from posts on the mailing list that Jim Bikoff<br class="">expressly said he only supports Recommendation #1 !<br class=""><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001256.html<br class=""><br class="">"All, please understand my position in support of recommendation 1<br class="">that no change to UDRP or URS or special procedure is warranted.<br class=""><br class="">No support for other recommendations."<br class=""><br class="">So, that's 2 errors (i.e. Paul T flips to "Support" and Jim Bikoff is<br class="">added to "Do not support")<br class=""><br class="">So, this *still* has *obvious* errors, and I haven't even reviewed it<br class="">closely (so there could be, and probably are, even more). I have so<br class="">little confidence, I basically have to *redo* it on my own, on a<br class="">compressed time frame.<br class=""><br class="">As for the agenda, I'd like my new Section 3.7 appeal to be a topic<br class="">added to the agenda (which does require a call between the chair and<br class="">myself, and since we're both going to be present -- or it could be<br class="">immediately after the call), along with the general topic of how it's<br class="">humanly possible to get a final report out by Sunday. Or if it's<br class="">already been decided that that timeline is off the table, tell us now,<br class="">to release some pressure from this PDP.<br class=""><br class="">Sincerely,<br class=""><br class="">George Kirikos<br class="">416-588-0269<br class="">http://www.leap.com/<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear WG Members,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">With apologies for late delivery, as George noted, please find the proposed<br class="">agenda for the WG call on 12 June 2018 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Welcome / SOIs<br class="">Review of Initial Consensus Level Designations<br class="">Next Steps<br class="">AOB<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">In regards to agenda item 2, please see the attached document to support<br class="">those discussions. This document follows and is a revised version of the one<br class="">sent by Petter on 9 June 2018.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Best,<br class=""><br class="">Steve<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Steven Chan<br class=""><br class="">Policy Director, GNSO Support<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">ICANN<br class=""><br class="">12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300<br class=""><br class="">Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536<br class=""><br class="">steve.chan@icann.org<br class=""><br class="">mobile: +1.310.339.4410<br class=""><br class="">office tel: +1.310.301.5800<br class=""><br class="">office fax: +1.310.823.8649<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting<br class="">the GNSO Newcomer pages.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<br class=""><br class="">Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icanngnso/<br class=""><br class="">http://gnso.icann.org/en/<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<br class="">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<br class="">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>