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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">PS: I should add that these thoughts are my own at this point and not an IPC position. Given the short timeframes between calls, I have not had an opportunity to socialize these ideas with IPC Leadership our
Membership. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> gnso-igo-wt <gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>McGrady, Paul D. via gnso-igo-wt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2021 5:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-igo-wt@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-igo-wt] A few thoughts on how close we really are<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As promised, below are a few thoughts on how close I think we really are to a solution. I propose that solution below and I look forward to discussing it with all of you.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">What I think IGO’s Are Asking For<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">What I think the Council has told us not to do<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Where I think I and others at this point<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">How I think all the ingredients are in place to meet in the middle and all it would require is a new footnote in the UDRP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Amend the UDRP to no longer require a trademark right to prevail (this goes beyond the initial concept of “standing” to file)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">No major amendments to the UDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This is major surgery to the UDRP and opens the door to all kinds of other “rights” that could be used to take away domain names from registrants. The UDRP has always been
about trademarks. This is too far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Resolve misunderstandings about trademark rights. Specifically:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A misunderstanding that in order to have “use in commerce” to unregistered trademark rights, the entity itself must be commercial in nature (many non-commercial entities
have registered and unregistered trademarks, e.g. churches, the U.S. Army)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Conflating “owning a trademark” with “owning a trademark registration.” The UDRP does not require owning a trademark registration to prevail, only an evident trademark (registered
or unregistered)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Make being on 6ter or GAC list sufficient not only to access the UDRP (standing) but to prevail substantively.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Concerns over the evidentiary standard to prevail on unregistered trademark rights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">No major amendments to the UDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This is major surgery to the UDRP and opens the door to all kinds of other “rights” that could be used to take away domain names from registrants. The UDRP has always been
about trademarks. This is too far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">GAC list especially unappealing because it is subject to change with no meaningful checks and balances (unlike getting on 6ter which is a rigorous process)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Instead of using 6ter to circumvent the UDRP’s trademark requirements (major surgery), consider dropping a footnote in the Section 4.a.(i) of the UDRP informing panelists
that:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Being on 6ter could be used to lower (but not eliminate) the evidentiary standard of showing unregistered trademark rights. For example, under a lower standard, 6ter and
this link (<a href="https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/events/workshops/2019/20yrs-udrp/index.html">https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/events/workshops/2019/20yrs-udrp/index.html</a>) could be sufficient to evidence WIPO has unregistered trademark rights in conducting conferences
since at least 2019.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Complainant need not be a commercial entity nor use the name or acronym on 6ter in for-profit ventures in order to have sufficient trademark rights to prevail (panelist
already know this, of course, but for comfort of those raising concerns, it might help).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Would prefer a new mechanism separate from the UDRP (an IgoDRP)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">No separate mechanisms from the UDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Not opposed to this, in principal, but subject to Council extending scope and keeping in mind concerns about unmoored “rights” being used to take away domain names from
registrants who have good faith reasons to register them (i.e. criticism, unrelated commercial uses, e.g. WHO v. WHO (the band)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This controversial idea becomes unnecessary if the concepts above in this column are adopted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Might be willing to make the above changes limited to situations in which the registrant is clearly pretending to be the IGO in order to perpetrate some sort of financial
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Spirit of Council direction seems to be narrow changes, so this particular element seems within that spirit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Very interested in using this narrowing rule as a means to provide greater flexibility on all of the other issues in this Work Track (e.g. immunity, appeals, etc.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Not necessary if the ideas in this column above are adopted.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If for some reason the good news found in this column is not acceptable to IGOs, keep this concept alive as a means to try to find a resolution with different elements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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