[gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] Re: For your review: Change of Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12 March
Arthur Zonnenberg
azonnenberg at hostnet.nl
Thu Mar 12 10:07:06 UTC 2015
Hi Berry,
This is indeed the IRTP-C and my comments are in the right document. If
we ask them for input and they ask us for input, is it clear to them we
are waiting for a decision from them? They seem to think their mandate
is not clear to begin with, so they are unlikely to make any decisions soon.
In addition for the IRTP-C,
- it is necessary that the Account Holder can receive and pass the
credential on behalf of the Prior Registrant, to allow resellers to
correct data on the basis of their reseller agreement and a request from
the Registered Name Holder sent to the reseller instead of the
Registrar. Failure to do so will create situations where the data
*cannot* be corrected in cases the credential *cannot* be provided to
the prior registrant based on information in WHOIS or on file.
I think we can all agree that it is safer to use existing Account Holder
data as a last resort versus using new Registered Name Holder data which
can be simulated.
For our consideration later today.
Kind regards,
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On 2015-03-11 20:58, Berry Cobb wrote:
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> Thank you for your input. For a hint of clarification, this thread is
> in response to IRTP-C. Part D has yet to form an IRT. In regards to
> DMPM, should the WG choose to continue forward with that use case, the
> intent will be to seek input from that group.
>
> Thanks again. B
>
> Berry A. Cobb
>
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers
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> *From:*owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org
> [mailto:owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Arthur
> Zonnenberg
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 03:09
> *To:* Caitlin Tubergen; Knight, Barbara; gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org;
> Theo Geurts
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] Re: For your review: Change of
> Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12 March
>
> Hi group,
>
> Thanks for the document, I have been quite busy and saw good
> contributions by Theo and others so was less actively present during
> this IRTP D. I still think registered name holder / user friendliness
> is not a part of ICANN policy and that more effort should be put into
> measuring current transfer performance.
>
> That said, I also notice the Working Group on Data & Metrics for
> Policy Making is brainstorming and searching for more specific input
> on what to do:
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-dmpm-24feb15-en.pdf
> Is there something we can do for them to provide that input?
>
> In any case, for this specific policy, please find my comments in
> addition to the document with Barbara's comments attached. Feedback
> welcome as always.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> *Arthur Zonnenberg*
> Product manager
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> On 2015-03-07 02:24, Caitlin Tubergen wrote:
>
> Hi Barbara,
>
> Thank you for your feedback!
>
> I have incorporated your changes/comments into the attached
> document, which uses the most recent version of the IRTP.
>
> Also, I took the liberty of adding some section numbers into the
> IRTP to it slightly more organized.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Caitlin
>
> *From: *"Knight, Barbara" <BKnight at verisign.com
> <mailto:BKnight at verisign.com>>
> *Date: *Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:38 PM
> *To: *Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org
> <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>,
> "gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org>"
> <gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org>>, Theo Geurts
> <theo.geurts at firstfind.nl <mailto:theo.geurts at firstfind.nl>>
> *Subject: *RE: For your review: Change of Registrant/Transfer
> Policy - by Thursday 12 March
>
> Caitlin,
>
> I have reviewed the latest draft and have a few comments /
> recommended edits (redlined in the attached). I will also be
> soliciting additional feedback from others in the Registry
> community but did not want to hold up getting my initial feedback
> over. I anticipate that any further feedback or comments that may
> be forthcoming from the Registry community can be provided during
> the comment period once it is posted for comments. Thanks for all
> of your efforts.
>
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>
> *Barbara Knight*
>
> Director of Registry Compliance
>
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> *From:*owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org
> <mailto:owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org>
> [mailto:owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Caitlin
> Tubergen
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:19 PM
> *To:* gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org>; Theo Geurts
> *Subject:* [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] For your review: Change of
> Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12 March
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thank you to everyone who participated in the call today. For
> those of you who were unable to attend, please find a link to the
> recording here: *https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4howkg3hce/*
>
> During the call, we discussed the outstanding issue from our last
> call, which was the issue of third party privacy/proxy providers
> and the potential challenge of transmitting the change of
> registrant credential to the underlying registrant. The members
> of the IRT that were on the call with okay with the proposed
> solution, which you will find in footnote 1.
>
> The P/P issue was the last outstanding issue to discuss before we
> post the draft policy for public comment.
>
> I have attached the draft policy for your final review. You will
> note that this is the hybrid “Transfer Policy,” which will go out
> for public comment. The Transfer Policy has two sections: the
> IRTP in section I, and the Change of Registrant in section II.
> The hybrid policy was recommended by the WG. As you may remember,
> we had already worked through recommendation 2, the time limiting
> of FOAs, before we began discussing the Change of Registrant
> function.
>
> If you have any final questions or comments on the draft policy,
> please submit them to me by *_Thursday, 12 March_*.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Caitlin
>
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