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Also, I asked the members on the call about timing for coming into compliance once the policy is announced. The default policy cycle is six months (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf" class="" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000e9;" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf</span></a>),
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