<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">It's looking pretty good, </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">However i got a question. </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">What does a Registrar do when a registrant cancels his privacy service or the privacy service is automatically terminated ?</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">Do I simply start displaying the underlying information (foot note 1) ? Though the foot note states that I require confirmation from the prior registrant. </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">I feel it should be added to 2.3 that in such a case the change of registrant does not apply or atleast some clarification on how to deal with his. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">Another thought was to add an extra section in our terms and conditions and start playing with the "designated agent" part, however that feels rather messy, but is an option.</span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">Or we agree that when a privacy service is cancelled a change or registrant does apply, though that would open up a new can of worms. </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">Thank you. </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt;">Theo </span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com><br><b>Aan: </b>"Caitlin Tubergen" <caitlin.tubergen@icann.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com>, gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Woensdag 29 juli 2015 23:17:16<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] FW: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__">looks fine from here.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">m</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div class=""><div class="">Thanks, Michele. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The RrSG has been given until Tuesday, 4 August, to provide feedback regarding implementation timing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a reminder — if anyone from the Implementation Review Team has any feedback on the latest version of the draft, please provide it by tomorrow, <span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"><b class="">Thursday, 30 July</b></span>.</div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;"><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;">Many thanks,</span></span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;"><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;">Caitlin </span></span></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;" class="" data-mce-style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;"><br class=""></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: #b5c4df;" class="" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: #b5c4df;"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">From: </span> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">Date: </span> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 11:58 AM<br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">To: </span> Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] FW: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Caitlin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Having discussed this within the RrSG we need more time to provide feedback to you</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Michele <br class=""><br class=""> Mr Michele Neylon<div class="">Blacknight Hosting & Domains</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.blacknight.host/" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.blacknight.host/">http://www.blacknight.host/</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.mneylon.social/" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.mneylon.social/">http://www.mneylon.social</a></div><div class="">Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal </div></div><div class=""><br class=""> On 23 Jul 2015, at 19:34, Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Hi, Team.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">This is reminder to provide any final feedback on the attached draft by <b class="">Thursday, 30 July</b>. If I do not receive any feedback on the draft, I will consider the text final.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Also, I asked the members on the call about timing for coming into compliance once the policy is announced. The default policy cycle is six months (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf"><span style="color: #0000e9;" class="" data-mce-style="color: #0000e9;">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf</span></a>), but the members on the call today asked for registrars’ input on if six months is enough time. We may, for example, choose to deviate from the standard six-month cycle.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">As there are no calls scheduled at this time, please provide any feedback you have over the email list.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Thank you!</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Kind regards,</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Caitlin </div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;" class="" data-mce-style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;"><br class=""></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="" data-mce-style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: #b5c4df;" class="" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: #b5c4df;"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">From: </span>Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">Date: </span>Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:21 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="" data-mce-style="font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span>For your review: draft policy + implementation timing<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">Hi, Team.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For those of you unable to make it to today’s call, please find a recording here: <a href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4maun572zp/" style="cursor: pointer; font-weight: bold; widows: 1; background-color: #ffffff;" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4maun572zp/" data-mce-style="cursor: pointer; font-weight: bold; widows: 1; background-color: #ffffff;">https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4maun572zp/</a>.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have attached the latest draft of the policy, which has a small change as a result of today’s call. There are also a few numbering changes. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are a few things that we are awaiting feedback on. Specifically, please take a look at:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(1) the definition of “Designated Agent” in paragraph 1(c). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(2) the circumstances described in paragraph 2.3, specifically 2.3(iv). (The IRT wanted to confirm that this gave registrars enough flexibility to update Whois information in the event of potential abuse). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, I asked the members on the call about timing for coming into compliance once the policy is announced. The default policy cycle is six months (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf</a>), but the members on the call today asked for registrars input on if six months is enough time. We may, for example, choose to deviate from the standard six month cycle.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you have any further comments on the attached draft or on the policy cycle timing, please provide feedback by <b class=""><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;">Thursday, 30 July</span></b>, two weeks from today’s date.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kind regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="" data-mce-style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;">Caitlin Tubergen</span></span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri;" style="font-family: Calibri;">Registrar Relations and Contracts Manager</span></span></div><div class="">ICANN</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;" class="" data-mce-style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 12px;"><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class=""><div class=""><Transfer Policy 16Jul.docx></div></blockquote></div></div></div><span id="cid:08187416-B261-4FFD-832E-58F02F539DF8@cloudmikey.com"><Transfer Policy 16Jul.docx></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;" class="" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;">PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: <a href="http://www.haven2.com" class="" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.haven2.com">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span></div><br class=""></div><br></div></div></body></html>