[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick WhoIs IRT - contact validationrules

gtheo gtheo at xs4all.nl
Thu Feb 4 08:58:43 UTC 2016


Simply use the ITU E.164 format, scripting to that format is pretty 
easy. That being said, we have no idea how if this is true for all 
Registrars. For example I remember some ccTLD registrars who had to hire 
a programmer/developer for things like scripting.

It is that this thing is already in motion, it would have been a prefect 
subject for the DMPM Pilot (not sure what the status is on the DMPM 
recommendations), to get the facts, rather then guessing, as this could 
turn out to be a rather complex exercise all in all.

Best regards,

Theo Geurts








Jennifer Gore Standiford schreef op 2016-02-04 04:08 AM:
> I respectfully disagree Joyce. What tool or standard will be provided
> or used for all registrars to before verification of 'full address'.
> As for phone number format, standardization is currently required
> under the 2013 RAA, however 'validation' of phone number would also
> require a 3rd party tool to perform such action that could support all
> domestic and international phone number formats.
> 
> Jennifer
> 
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Joyce Lin <jlin at 007names.com> wrote:
> 
>> *
>> *
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>> I believe a full verifiable address and valid phone number with
>> correct format are definitely required in thick whois.
>> 
>> Joyce
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>>> FROM: Roger D Carney
>>> TO: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org
>>> SENT: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 5:48 PM
>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick WhoIs IRT - contact
>>> validationrules
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>> 
>>> Thanks Marc, this will be very helpful.
>>> 
>>> I just want to confirm that I am reading this information
>>> correctly. As I read this it appears that only Contact ID, Postal
>>> info type, Name, City, Country, Email and Auth Info (only those
>>> required by RFC 5733) are required to create a contact, meaning
>>> that I can have a mostly blank address block and blank phone, is
>>> that correct?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Roger
>>> 
>>> FROM: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org] ON BEHALF OF
>>> Anderson, Marc
>>> SENT: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:54 PM
>>> TO: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org
>>> SUBJECT: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick WhoIs IRT - contact
>>> validation rules
>>> 
>>> Dear IRT Members,
>>> 
>>> At the last IRT meeting we discussed that in order for Registrars
>>> to properly assess the amount of work involved in the backfill of
>>> thick data for existing Registrations, it is necessary to know the
>>> fields required and their validation rules.
>>> 
>>> Along with providing that information, I want to make sure
>>> everyone has the same understanding of the difference between a
>>> thin Registry and a thick Registry.  A thin domain registration
>>> does not have any contacts associated with it.  Currently, a
>>> Registrar cannot even create contacts for the .com or .net
>>> Registry.
>>> 
>>> As part of a transition to thick, the com/net registry would start
>>> supporting contacts by allowing Registrars to add, modify and
>>> delete contacts.    A thick domain registration MUST have a
>>> contact ID for each contact type (Registrant, Admin, Technical and
>>> Billing).  The same contact can be re-used across domains and/or
>>> contact types.  For example, if a Registrant were to register two
>>> domains in a thick gTLD via the same Registrar, that Registrar
>>> could create one contact and associate that with both domain
>>> registrations or could create two separate contacts, one for each
>>> domain.  Either is fine, but I’m calling it out because it will
>>> have an impact on the effort required by Registrars to backfill
>>> thick data for existing registrations.  There are no other
>>> differences between a thin and a thick registration.
>>> 
>>> I recognize that the Billing contact is not universally required
>>> by all thick Registries.  Some (including Verisign) require it;
>>> some allow it as an optional field and some don’t allow it at
>>> all.  I don’t believe this was addressed by the Thick WhoIs PDP
>>> working group so it may be worth consideration by the IRT.
>>> 
>>> Attached please find a document containing the contact validation
>>> rules that Verisign would implement to assist Registrars in
>>> assessing impacts.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Marc Anderson
>>> 
>>> <image001.gif>
>>> 
>>> MARC ANDERSON
>>> Product Manager
>>> mcanderson at verisign.com
>>> 
>>> m: 571.521.9943 t: 703.948.3404
>>> 12061 Bluemont Way, Reston, VA 20190
>>> 
>>> VerisignInc.com [1]
>>> 
>>> <image003.gif>
>>> 
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> [1] http://www.verisigninc.com/
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