[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS

Marika Konings marika.konings at icann.org
Wed Sep 7 14:53:36 UTC 2016 

And it can be found here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1434138098000&api=v2. 

 

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From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>
Date: Wednesday 7 September 2016 at 08:44
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS

 

That legal review was undertaken more than a year ago.  

 

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Partially. As the thick whois WG clearly recommended that a legal review be undertaken with regard to the impact of any implementation on local privacy legislations, the question of available excemptions may well become relevant to such a review.

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Volker

 

 

Am 07.09.2016 um 16:38 schrieb Metalitz, Steven:

Agree that this issue is outside the scope of this group.    

 

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From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS

 

Well, I agree that we need a workable process for obtaining an 
excemption, but that is a discussion for another group, I guess. An 
Implementation Advisory Group, if you will. I hear there may soon be 
another one of those. ;-)

Best,

Volker


Am 07.09.2016 um 15:18 schrieb gtheo:
> That might be a way forward Volker.
>
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/waiver-request-process-2013-09-13-en 
>
>
> However, that one wasn't exactly "speedy". Took me two years to obtain 
> one.
> The invalidation of Safe Harbor was rather sudden. Some governments 
> displayed the last 12 months that things can change at record speed 
> law wise.
>
> I guess the problem boils down to this.
> -Sudden changes in law putting migrated Registrar businesses at risk.
> -The procedure can take much longer than the proposed timeline.
> -There might be Registrars that cannot migrate.
>
> I am not sure, but I have the feeling that it is not up to the IRT to 
> fix this as it is out of scope.
> Though Registrars who cannot migrate, we might want to mention RDAP. 
> Even though that is already mentioned in the RDAP spec when it comes 
> to Thin WHOIS Registries.
>
> Theo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Volker Greimann schreef op 2016-09-07 01:24 PM:
>
>> How about adding: "Further procedures for resolving conflicts with
>> local privacy laws are included in the 2013 RAA Data Retention
>> specification"?
>>
>> Am 07.09.2016 um 12:52 schrieb gtheo:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> _1. Where a conflict exists between local privacy laws and
>> requirements included in this Policy, ICANN's Procedure for
>> Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Laws is available for Registry
>> Operators and Registrars. _
>>
>> We didn't get around this yesterday, wich is fine. Let us see if we
>> can have some discussion in advance about this as I am struggling
>> with this section for a few now.
>>
>> The text itself is good, as in, this is what I expected after the
>> discussions we had about this in the last few months.
>>
>> What I am not sure off is how to deal with this in the sense of
>> moving forward to the comment period.
>> The procedure is not working, but is outside of this IRT to address,
>> yet this IRT relies on it.
>>
>> Are we going to put in a footnote in the report that says something
>> like:
>> _Outside the scope of the IRT to address, but we wish the Registrars
>> and Registrants the best of luck!_
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Theo
>>
>> Dennis Chang schreef op 2016-09-02 02:05 AM:
>>
>> Dear Thick Whois Policy Implementation Review Team,
>>
>> Attached for your review is our initial draft of the Thick Whois
>> Transition Policy for .COM, .NET and .JOBS. The draft Policy
>> includes
>> the various elements discussed in our recent meeting on this
>> topic.
>>
>> As you review the draft, you will find bracketed text in four
>> sections: sections 2.9, 2.10, 3.4 and 3.5. These sections are
>> bracketed because they reference the Registry Registration Data
>> Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy and the
>> Registration Data Access Protocol gTLD Profile. As you may be
>> aware, a
>> Request for Reconsideration (RfR) was submitted by the Registries
>> Stakeholder Group in August regarding the Registry Registration
>> Data
>> Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy [1 [1]]
>> that was
>> published on 26 July 2016. The RfR objects to the inclusion of
>> RDAP in
>> the Consensus Policy. While the RfR goes through its own process,
>> we
>> thought it was important to continue progressing the
>> implementation
>> project with the goal of opening Public Comment in September and
>> announcing the Transition Policy by 1 February 2017 per our
>> schedule.
>> Therefore, the text is bracketed as it may need to be revisited
>> pending the resolution of the RfR and we wanted to directly call
>> the
>> IRT's attention to it.
>>
>> We will review all contents of the document at our next IRT
>> meeting as
>> a team but please provide your comments in advance via email if
>> possible.
>>
>> Thank you for your support!
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Dennis S. Chang
>>
>> GDD Services & Engagement Program Director
>>
>> +1 213 293 7889
>>
>> Skype: dennisSchang
>>
>> www.icann.org [2] "One World, One Internet"
>>
>> Links:
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>
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rdds-labeling-policy-2016-07-26-en
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