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<DIV>I simply responded to Roger's question regarding the address <FONT
color=#1f497d>'meaning that I can have a mostly blank address block and blank
phone, is that correct?'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1f497d></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>I do not think you can have a blank address field, whether the
address is verifiable is another issue. And I do not know if any
registrar would fully verify a RNH address before they approve a new
domain registration. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We have dealt with a domain's inaccurate whois complaint from ICANN a
few months ago, and the RNH is located in the African Continent. At the
end we had to verify the RNH's address and provided the result to ICANN as they
had requested below -</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>5. If any of the Whois data was updated during
the course of your registrar's investigation or if the RNH has changed, provide
the methods and results of your registrar's validation of format of the Whois
data. Examples of standard formats include RFC 5322 for email addresses, ITU-T
E.164 notation for the format of international telephone numbers and for the
format of postal addresses the UPU Postal addressing format templates, the S42
address templates (as they may be updated) or other standard formats for the
applicable territory. For more details please refer to the Whois Accuracy
Program Specification. </FONT><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Joyce</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JStandiford@web.com href="mailto:JStandiford@web.com">Jennifer Gore
Standiford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jlin@007names.com
href="mailto:jlin@007names.com">Joyce Lin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rcarney@godaddy.com
href="mailto:rcarney@godaddy.com">Roger D Carney</A> ; <A
title=gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt]
Thick WhoIs IRT - contactvalidationrules</DIV>
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<DIV>I respectfully disagree Joyce. What tool or standard will be provided or
used for all registrars to before verification of 'full address'. As for phone
number format, standardization is currently required under the 2013 RAA,
however 'validation' of phone number would also require a 3rd party tool to
perform such action that could support all domestic and international phone
number formats. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jennifer </DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Joyce Lin <<A
href="mailto:jlin@007names.com">jlin@007names.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Roger,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I believe a full verifiable address and valid phone number with correct
format are definitely required in thick whois.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joyce</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcarney@godaddy.com href="mailto:rcarney@godaddy.com">Roger D
Carney</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 03, 2016
5:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick WhoIs IRT - contact validationrules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">Good
Afternoon,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">Thanks
Marc, this will be very helpful.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">I
just want to confirm that I am reading this information correctly. As I
read this it appears that only Contact ID, Postal info type, Name, City,
Country, Email and <SPAN class=SpellE>Auth</SPAN> Info (only those
required by RFC 5733) are required to create a contact, meaning that I can
have a mostly blank address block and blank phone, is that
correct?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">Thanks<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">Roger<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <A
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Anderson, Marc<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 01,
2016 2:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick WhoIs IRT - contact validation
rules<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Dear IRT Members,<O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>At the last IRT meeting we discussed that in order for
Registrars to properly assess the amount of work involved in the backfill
of thick data for existing Registrations, it is necessary to know the
fields required and their validation rules.<O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Along with providing that information, I want to make
sure everyone has the same understanding of the difference between a thin
Registry and a thick Registry. A thin domain registration does not
have any contacts associated with it. Currently, a Registrar cannot
even create contacts for the .com or .net Registry.<O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>As part of a transition to thick, the com/net registry
would start supporting contacts by allowing Registrars to add, modify and
delete contacts. A thick domain registration MUST have a
contact ID for each contact type (Registrant, Admin, Technical and
Billing). The same contact can be re-used across domains and/or
contact types. For example, if a Registrant were to register two
domains in a thick gTLD via the same Registrar, that Registrar could
create one contact and associate that with both domain registrations or
could create two separate contacts, one for each domain. Either is
fine, but I’m calling it out because it will have an impact on the effort
required by Registrars to backfill thick data for existing
registrations. There are no other differences between a thin and a
thick registration.<O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I recognize that the Billing contact is not universally
required by all thick Registries. Some (including Verisign) require
it; some allow it as an optional field and some don’t allow it at
all. I don’t believe this was addressed by the Thick WhoIs PDP
working group so it may be worth consideration by the IRT.<O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Attached please find a document containing the contact
validation rules that Verisign would implement to assist Registrars in
assessing impacts.<O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thank you,<O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Marc Anderson<O:P></O:P></P>
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