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    <p>In support of Marc and Jen here. <br>
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    <p>I think mixing them (PDP's) will put to much pressure on the
      current thick whois IRT and we won't gain the synergy effects. As
      mentioned before the T/T is rather complex. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Let's discuss this more as Jen suggested in Amsterdam. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks, <br>
    </p>
    <p>Theo Geurts<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12-5-2016 15:50, Jennifer Gore
      Standiford wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Fabien,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            agree with Marc and I have also expressed my concerns and
            opposition to the GNSO council regarding the idea to bundle
            T&amp;T and CL&amp;D implementation. We all appreciate the
            notion to consolidate the various WHOIS related projects. My
            recommendation is as follows: 1)
          </span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">T/T
            needs to move onto an IRT process 2) The IRD recommendations
            need to be evaluated and as appropriate be incorporated into
            other GNSO policy work on WHOIS, at a minimum as it relates
            to the T/T IRT and RDS PDP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            understand ICANN staff has put this item on the agenda for
            the GDD Summit and I look forward to participating in this
            discussion.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank
            you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jennifer</span><span
            style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Marc<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:39 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Fabien Betremieux;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] CL&amp;D -
                Your Input on Staff Proposals - Due Wed. 11 May<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Fabien,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In
            response to proposal #3 below regarding the bundling of
            T&amp;T and CL&amp;D implementation, Verisign’s response is
            to recommend they be treated separately and we do not
            support combining the two.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            do want to express our appreciation for the effort to
            consolidate some of the multiple RDDS related initiatives
            currently underway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">That
            said, I have discussed this with my colleagues internally
            and we feel that there are not great synergies between
            T&amp;T and CL&amp;D and like others on the IRT are
            concerned that T&amp;T would unnecessarily delay the work of
            this IRT.  As such it is our recommendation that a separate
            IRT be formed for T&amp;T.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank
            you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Marc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fabien Betremieux<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2016 7:46 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] CL&amp;D -
                Your Input on Staff Proposals - Due Wed. 11 May<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dear
              IRT members, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">As
              discussed during our meeting, we would like to request you
              provide your input regarding Staff’s question and
              proposals to address the public comments received on our
              initial implementation plan (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">A
              a reminder, these question and proposals are the
              following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Question:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
              level1 lfo3">
              <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Is
                the issue created by referencing the 2013 RAA in a
                Consensus Policy applicable to registries a matter of
                policy or implementation ? <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          </ul>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Proposals:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <ol start="1" type="1">
            <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo6">
              <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Referral
                of the Registry vs. Registrar Expiration Date confusion
                for consideration by the RDS PDP Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo6">
              <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Optional
                display of the Registrar Registration Expiration Date,
                with mitigation measures similar to that of the AWIP
                policy if displayed<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo6">
              <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Proposed
                Bundling of T&amp;T and CL&amp;D implementation (more
                details on slide 4 of our presentation this week,
                available at:
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings">https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          </ol>
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        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Please
              provide your input in response to this email by Wed. 11
              May COB in your time zone. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Please
              also note that we hope to focus our next IRT meeting (Tue.
              10 May) on the implementation of the transition from thin
              to thick.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Best
              Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Fabien
                Betremieux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Sr.
                Registry Services &amp; Engagement Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Global
                Domains Division, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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