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<p>To circle back on this one as we ran out of time on the call
(good discussions btw). <br>
</p>
<p>For those who were not at the GDD meeting, Fransico tried to get
some bearings. <br>
<br>
I think 5 people voted yes, 7 people voted no, 150 people did not
vote for whatever reason, though it was a Registry/Registrar meet.
<br>
And that is the "core" right there. <br>
<br>
So today it was mentioned on the call, we might want to do a vote.
<br>
Great, I am all up for transparency and democracy. <br>
<br>
But as it goes with democracy, who is going to be voting and do
they have enough knowledge about the road ahead?<br>
Today, well actually on the last few calls we are scratching the
surface on what will, in my opinion, to be a very complex IRT as
it will hit on Registry and Registrar operational levels. History
has proven these are complex processes and we will get hit by tons
of questions later on. <br>
<br>
So whatever vote setup we chose (is there a choice?), it needs to
represent the IRT. You ask any Registrar, hey we can save some
time by bundling some PDP's? Every Registrar will agree that it
makes sense. <br>
However, if you ask the Registrars if the bundling of the PDP's
makes sense while the IRT has to go real, real deep to make this
happen, most likely they will respond that it does not make sense.
<br>
I asked those questions early on the call for a reason regarding
how deep we would need to go. We will be digging deep. <br>
<br>
Thanks for making it this far. <br>
<br>
Theo Geurts<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12-5-2016 21:20, theo geurts wrote:<br>
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<p>In support of Marc and Jen here. <br>
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<p>I think mixing them (PDP's) will put to much pressure on the
current thick whois IRT and we won't gain the synergy effects.
As mentioned before the T/T is rather complex. <br>
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<p>Let's discuss this more as Jen suggested in Amsterdam. <br>
</p>
<p>Thanks, <br>
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<p>Theo Geurts<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12-5-2016 15:50, Jennifer Gore
Standiford wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fabien,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
agree with Marc and I have also expressed my concerns and
opposition to the GNSO council regarding the idea to
bundle T&T and CL&D implementation. We all
appreciate the notion to consolidate the various WHOIS
related projects. My recommendation is as follows: 1) </span><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">T/T
needs to move onto an IRT process 2) The IRD
recommendations need to be evaluated and as appropriate be
incorporated into other GNSO policy work on WHOIS, at a
minimum as it relates to the T/T IRT and RDS PDP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
understand ICANN staff has put this item on the agenda for
the GDD Summit and I look forward to participating in this
discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jennifer</span><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Marc<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fabien Betremieux; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] CL&D
- Your Input on Staff Proposals - Due Wed. 11 May<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fabien,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
response to proposal #3 below regarding the bundling of
T&T and CL&D implementation, Verisign’s response
is to recommend they be treated separately and we do not
support combining the two.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
do want to express our appreciation for the effort to
consolidate some of the multiple RDDS related initiatives
currently underway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That
said, I have discussed this with my colleagues internally
and we feel that there are not great synergies between
T&T and CL&D and like others on the IRT are
concerned that T&T would unnecessarily delay the work
of this IRT. As such it is our recommendation that a
separate IRT be formed for T&T.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Marc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fabien Betremieux<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2016 7:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] CL&D -
Your Input on Staff Proposals - Due Wed. 11 May<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
IRT members, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As
discussed during our meeting, we would like to request
you provide your input regarding Staff’s question and
proposals to address the public comments received on our
initial implementation plan (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">A
a reminder, these question and proposals are the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Question:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3"> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Is
the issue created by referencing the 2013 RAA in a
Consensus Policy applicable to registries a matter of
policy or implementation ? <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Proposals:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6"> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Referral
of the Registry vs. Registrar Expiration Date
confusion for consideration by the RDS PDP Working
Group<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6"> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Optional
display of the Registrar Registration Expiration Date,
with mitigation measures similar to that of the AWIP
policy if displayed<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo6"> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Proposed
Bundling of T&T and CL&D implementation (more
details on slide 4 of our presentation this week,
available at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings">https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please
provide your input in response to this email by Wed. 11
May COB in your time zone. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please
also note that we hope to focus our next IRT meeting
(Tue. 10 May) on the implementation of the transition
from thin to thick.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Fabien
Betremieux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sr.
Registry Services & Engagement Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Global
Domains Division, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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