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<DIV>I do not think the escrow files would work because you are
asking the registries to unwrap (or whatever tool) the file that
you upload to the escrow provider. They definitely are not going to
do that extra work and more importantly, they may not fit into their db
seamlessly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joyce</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcarney@godaddy.com href="mailto:rcarney@godaddy.com">Roger D
Carney</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 06, 2016 11:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt]
Additional suggestions.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=WordSection1>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good
Morning,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Theo are you
suggesting using both EPP and the escrow files together, I am not clear on
what/how these would be used together?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think just
starting with the escrow comes with many issues as well.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think this
would cause some issues on how we would get Contact IDs and <SPAN
class=SpellE>Auth</SPAN> Info data transmitted?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does the escrow
process support shared contacts?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The escrow files
may contain proxy/privacy contacts which I am sure most Registrars would not
want to expose.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Additionally,
Verisign and Registrars are going to need to figure out error handling when
files are used, is Verisign going to send back a file containing
success/failure/reason for each domain/contact? How will re-transmission of
error records be handled?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Roger<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of gtheo<BR>Sent:
Monday, June 06, 2016 5:29 AM<BR>To:
gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<BR>Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt]
Additional suggestions.</P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Hello team,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>During the calls, we mentioned that we should use EPP as
Registrars.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>To avoid some scripting issues is it perhaps an idea
that Registrars also can push the RDE Deposit format in addition to
EPP?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><A
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rde-specs-09nov07-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rde-specs-09nov07-en.pdf</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Every registrar has to make these deposits and the
format is the same for everyone. Not taking into account Registrars who do not
use Iron Mountain for Escrow, but that is most likely a very low
number.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>It might be worth exploring if we cannot use the
escrowed data to begin with. If we could use that data then we are talking
just one entity migrating. The whole window of 12 months would not be required
and as such we would speed up the process and not risk delays when Registrars
start to migrate as late as possible for whatever reason.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>From a technical point of view, it makes a lot more
sense since there is already 1 place where all the data is
stored.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Legal wise there are most likely a whole set of issues
that we might not be able to tackle. During Marrakech, the idea was rejected
during the Registrar meeting. Main reason we cannot use the escrow data as the
contract does not permit it. And Iron Mountain did only have the real data and
not the privacy protected data.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>The latter issue seems to be resolving itself as Iron
Mountain is now requesting that data, I suspect on behalf of ICANN
compliance.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>We might want to check with Compliance to see what is up
there.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Theo Geurts<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
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class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></P>
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