<div style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:12.0pt; color:#1F497D"><div>I agree with Roger except for the delay accreditation part, but certainly will not agree with Steve on numbers being released, percentages maybe but actual numbers I would not see a reasoning for that.</div>
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<div id="signature-x" style="-webkit-user-select:none; font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:12.0pt; color:#1F497D"><div>Sent from Chris on the move<a href="http://www.9folders.com/" style="text-decoration:none;color:#009BDF"><br></a></div></div></div><div class="quoted_separate_body"/><div id="quoted_header" style="clear:both;"><hr style="border:none; height:1px; color:#E1E1E1; background-color:#E1E1E1;"/><div style="border:none; padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl><br><b>Sent:</b> 10 Aug 2016 19:51<br><b>To:</b> Metalitz, Steven; 'Roger D Carney'; gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick<br></span></div></div><br type='attribution'><div id="quoted_body">
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I agree with Roger.<br>
<br>
I am not sure if I agree with Steve. The suggestion bout the
progress expressed in percentages is fine, but why would we want
these numbers be public? <br>
<br>
Beside some domain bloggers creating click-bait headlines, like
:"will registrar X make the deadline or will they be de-accredited?
Transfer your domains now!". I currently do not see why they should
be made public, though I am open input.<br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10-8-2016 20:06, Metalitz, Steven
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
agree with Roger that weekly and consolidated reporting
would be a good idea. Would it be feasible to also provide
as a denominator the total number of registrations sponsored
by that registrar in the registries in question, so that
progress could be expressed in percentage terms? These
numbers should also be made public periodically.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#88162E">Steven
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger D Carney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item
7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to
Thick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good Morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The migration
data path should be left to the registrars discretion and
not necessarily based on renewal dates. I would propose that
starting at the beginning of the transition, Verisign can
provide a weekly list of thin registrations to each
registrar (and possibly ICANN) of domains that do not have
contacts assigned and maybe a consolidated report showing
Registrar progression.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The reduced
validation rules need to apply until all registrations are
thick.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Post
transition, if domain has no ROIDs the domain is
auto-deleted at the domain expiration date automatically by
the Registry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Post transition
completion date, ICANN will revoke your Registrar
Accreditation 90 days after transition if you are not making
noticeable progress on remaining thin registrations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fabien Betremieux<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 08, 2016 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b -
Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
IRT Members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As
Staff is working on drafting the implementation plan,
including potential measures that could be implemented or
suggested to facilitate and encourage Registrars to
complete the migration of registration data from thin to
thick, we would like to pick IRT members brains about the
type of measures they believe would or would not be
effective for themselves and others .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">To
date, several ideas have been floated in IRT discussions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Using
renewal date of a registration as a pacing mechanism to
migrate registration data<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Setting
up financial incentives plans similar to what some ccTLDs
have done to promote the adoption of DNSSEC<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Not
replicating the migration in batch implemented during the
migration of .ORG from thin to thick<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Can
you think of other effective (or non effective) measures ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks
in advance for your discussion of this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Fabien<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of theo geurts <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, June 20, 2016 at 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Updated
Scorecard of Transition Implementation Path Discussions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks.
Fabien,<br>
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I think it is wise that the comment from Steve Metalitz
on the last call is also reflected in 7B. That once the
PDP is sent to the Registrars with an effective date
becomes an obligation for Registrars to comply with.<br>
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This itself does not solve the issue, but it does raise
the question how ICANN Compliance is gonna deal with
this and how it could possibly affect the timeline. The
dynamics being different compared to .ORG.
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Let me explain my thinking here. Assume in a worst case
scenario that we are passed the end date of the
migration (18 months). The end result is 200 Registrars
did not migrate the data. Compliance kicks in. They need
to deal with 200 Registrars mediation is 6
months(complete guess). Total migration time 24 months.
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Do we need to factor this in? Does it add anything?<br>
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How compliance will deal with this is outside the scope
of the IRT in my opinion. Though Maguy and her team
might want to start thinking about this.
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Best, <br>
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Theo Geurts<br>
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20-6-2016 16:36, Fabien Betremieux wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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advance of our meeting planned tomorrow, please
find attached our updated scorecard (in clean
and redline versions) per discussion in last
week’s meeting and over the mailing list since
then.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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will use the clean version to guide our
discussion tomorrow. In the meantime, please let
me know if you would like to propose edits to
the scorecard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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