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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Added to the agenda for 6 September 2016 IRT Meeting per your request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Dennis Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Metalitz, Steven" <met@msk.com>, Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Then we continue with the next meeting as planned. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I do request we put this item and the draft memo up for discussion also. Not sure if we get to it, if not, no biggie, we discuss it later.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>But it is imperative that it needs to be discussed. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Theo <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3-9-2016 22:24, Metalitz, Steven wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">To clarify: The Whois conflicts procedure remains unchanged. It is the proposed change to the procedure (relaxation of the trigger requirement) that remains in limbo.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>theo geurts<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 03, 2016 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dennis,<br>
<br>
Yes, agreed on the implementation project, we are almost there anyways.<br>
<br>
You are correct that there is no change in the procedure at this very <br>
moment. But this can change.<br>
<br>
My read is, the WHOIS IAG is in limbo due to the withdrawal. But it can <br>
be rewritten/reintroduced at the GNSO next meeting, or thereafter.<br>
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Regardless what they are going to do, I guess we need some clarity here <br>
and the IRT should signal them?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Theo<br>
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On 2-9-2016 23:11, Dennis Chang wrote:<br>
> Hi Theo,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for your attention to this CP. Much appreciated of course.<br>
><br>
> My understanding is that the GNSO Council considered a possible modification to the existing procedure as recommended by the IAG,<br>
> but this decision has been deferred. Therefore, no change to the procedure that is currently in place.<br>
><br>
> In another word, we continue with our implementation project. Agreed?<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
> Dennis Chang<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 9/2/16, 1:13 PM, "theo geurts" <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Dennis,<br>
> <br>
> It just dawned on me that this thing was rather familiar for two<br>
> reasons. I was an observer on that group and it was discussed yesterday<br>
> at the GNSO council meeting.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-01sep16-en.pdf">
https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-01sep16-en.pdf</a><br>
> <br>
> The motion is currently withdrawn. Where does that leave us draft wise?<br>
> <br>
> Side note for those who are interested. The trigger mentioned in the<br>
> WHOIS IAG was already tried by the Dutch Registry SIDN (backend operator<br>
> for .Amsterdam) in 2015. The Dutch Privacy Data Regulator simply replied<br>
> back :"You know the law, stick to it, we are not going to issue a<br>
> statement". And that was the end of that. Yes, fun people for sure, they<br>
> just don't how to party.<br>
> <br>
> Anyhow, all fun talk aside, the WHOIS IAG report is not an option for<br>
> now since it is in limbo at the GNSO, how do we proceed?<br>
> <br>
> Best regards,<br>
> <br>
> Theo<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 2-9-2016 20:00, theo geurts wrote:<br>
> > Thank you Dennis,<br>
> ><br>
> > I'll give it a read as soon I have the time.<br>
> ><br>
> > Theo<br>
> ><br>
> > On 2-9-2016 15:47, Dennis Chang wrote:<br>
> >> Hello Theo,<br>
> >><br>
> >> ICANN Procedure For Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br>
> >> mentioned in the implementation note can be found here:<br>
> >> <a href="https://whois.icann.org/en/icann-procedure-handling-whois-conflicts-privacy-law">
https://whois.icann.org/en/icann-procedure-handling-whois-conflicts-privacy-law</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks<br>
> >> Dennis Chang<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On 9/2/16, 2:19 AM, "gtheo" <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks Dennis,<br>
> >> One question after a quick read, what procedure is that on the<br>
> >> implementation notes on the last page? Do you have a link?<br>
> >> For the rest I think we got it covered and should be able<br>
> >> to wrap it up<br>
> >> rather quickly.<br>
> >> Best regards,<br>
> >> Theo<br>
> >> Dennis Chang schreef op 2016-09-02 02:05 AM:<br>
> >> > Dear Thick Whois Policy Implementation Review Team,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Attached for your review is our initial draft of the Thick Whois<br>
> >> > Transition Policy for .COM, .NET and .JOBS. The draft Policy<br>
> >> includes<br>
> >> > the various elements discussed in our recent meeting on this<br>
> >> topic.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > As you review the draft, you will find bracketed text in four<br>
> >> > sections: sections 2.9, 2.10, 3.4 and 3.5. These sections are<br>
> >> > bracketed because they reference the Registry Registration Data<br>
> >> > Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy and the<br>
> >> > Registration Data Access Protocol gTLD Profile. As you may be<br>
> >> aware, a<br>
> >> > Request for Reconsideration (RfR) was submitted by the Registries<br>
> >> > Stakeholder Group in August regarding the Registry<br>
> >> Registration Data<br>
> >> > Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy [1]<br>
> >> that was<br>
> >> > published on 26 July 2016. The RfR objects to the inclusion of<br>
> >> RDAP in<br>
> >> > the Consensus Policy. While the RfR goes through its own<br>
> >> process, we<br>
> >> > thought it was important to continue progressing the<br>
> >> implementation<br>
> >> > project with the goal of opening Public Comment in September and<br>
> >> > announcing the Transition Policy by 1 February 2017 per our<br>
> >> schedule.<br>
> >> > Therefore, the text is bracketed as it may need to be revisited<br>
> >> > pending the resolution of the RfR and we wanted to directly<br>
> >> call the<br>
> >> > IRT’s attention to it.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> ><span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> > We will review all contents of the document at our next IRT<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> meeting as<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> > a team but please provide your comments in advance via email if<br>
> >> > possible.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Thank you for your support!<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > —<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> ><span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> > Kind Regards,<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> ><span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> >> > Dennis S. Chang<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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