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<p>Partially. As the thick whois WG clearly recommended that a legal
review be undertaken with regard to the impact of any
implementation on local privacy legislations, the question of
available excemptions may well become relevant to such a review.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gtheo<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT
review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM,
.NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I agree that we need a workable
process for obtaining an
<br>
excemption, but that is a discussion for another group, I
guess. An <br>
Implementation Advisory Group, if you will. I hear there may
soon be <br>
another one of those. ;-)<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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Am 07.09.2016 um 15:18 schrieb gtheo:<br>
> That might be a way forward Volker.<br>
><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/waiver-request-process-2013-09-13-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/waiver-request-process-2013-09-13-en</a>
<br>
><br>
><br>
> However, that one wasn't exactly "speedy". Took me two
years to obtain <br>
> one.<br>
> The invalidation of Safe Harbor was rather sudden. Some
governments <br>
> displayed the last 12 months that things can change at
record speed <br>
> law wise.<br>
><br>
> I guess the problem boils down to this.<br>
> -Sudden changes in law putting migrated Registrar
businesses at risk.<br>
> -The procedure can take much longer than the proposed
timeline.<br>
> -There might be Registrars that cannot migrate.<br>
><br>
> I am not sure, but I have the feeling that it is not up
to the IRT to <br>
> fix this as it is out of scope.<br>
> Though Registrars who cannot migrate, we might want to
mention RDAP. <br>
> Even though that is already mentioned in the RDAP spec
when it comes <br>
> to Thin WHOIS Registries.<br>
><br>
> Theo<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Volker Greimann schreef op 2016-09-07 01:24 PM:<br>
><br>
>> How about adding: "Further procedures for resolving
conflicts with<br>
>> local privacy laws are included in the 2013 RAA Data
Retention<br>
>> specification"?<br>
>><br>
>> Am 07.09.2016 um 12:52 schrieb gtheo:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello all,<br>
>><br>
>> _1. Where a conflict exists between local privacy
laws and<br>
>> requirements included in this Policy, ICANN's
Procedure for<br>
>> Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Laws is
available for Registry<br>
>> Operators and Registrars. _<br>
>><br>
>> We didn't get around this yesterday, wich is fine.
Let us see if we<br>
>> can have some discussion in advance about this as I
am struggling<br>
>> with this section for a few now.<br>
>><br>
>> The text itself is good, as in, this is what I
expected after the<br>
>> discussions we had about this in the last few months.<br>
>><br>
>> What I am not sure off is how to deal with this in
the sense of<br>
>> moving forward to the comment period.<br>
>> The procedure is not working, but is outside of this
IRT to address,<br>
>> yet this IRT relies on it.<br>
>><br>
>> Are we going to put in a footnote in the report that
says something<br>
>> like:<br>
>> _Outside the scope of the IRT to address, but we wish
the Registrars<br>
>> and Registrants the best of luck!_<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Theo<br>
>><br>
>> Dennis Chang schreef op 2016-09-02 02:05 AM:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Thick Whois Policy Implementation Review Team,<br>
>><br>
>> Attached for your review is our initial draft of the
Thick Whois<br>
>> Transition Policy for .COM, .NET and .JOBS. The draft
Policy<br>
>> includes<br>
>> the various elements discussed in our recent meeting
on this<br>
>> topic.<br>
>><br>
>> As you review the draft, you will find bracketed text
in four<br>
>> sections: sections 2.9, 2.10, 3.4 and 3.5. These
sections are<br>
>> bracketed because they reference the Registry
Registration Data<br>
>> Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display
Policy and the<br>
>> Registration Data Access Protocol gTLD Profile. As
you may be<br>
>> aware, a<br>
>> Request for Reconsideration (RfR) was submitted by
the Registries<br>
>> Stakeholder Group in August regarding the Registry
Registration<br>
>> Data<br>
>> Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display
Policy [1 [1]]<br>
>> that was<br>
>> published on 26 July 2016. The RfR objects to the
inclusion of<br>
>> RDAP in<br>
>> the Consensus Policy. While the RfR goes through its
own process,<br>
>> we<br>
>> thought it was important to continue progressing the<br>
>> implementation<br>
>> project with the goal of opening Public Comment in
September and<br>
>> announcing the Transition Policy by 1 February 2017
per our<br>
>> schedule.<br>
>> Therefore, the text is bracketed as it may need to be
revisited<br>
>> pending the resolution of the RfR and we wanted to
directly call<br>
>> the<br>
>> IRT's attention to it.<br>
>><br>
>> We will review all contents of the document at our
next IRT<br>
>> meeting as<br>
>> a team but please provide your comments in advance
via email if<br>
>> possible.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you for your support!<br>
>><br>
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