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<p>Well, I was a member of the PDP and when I supported a switch, I
assumed this would be a quick thing:</p>
<p>The legal issues would be sorted, the remaining thin registries
would set up thick whois servers, get a data dump from the
registrars and after a short switchover time, registrars would
updated their EPP protocols to a standard used by currently thick
registries and afterward, a delta file would be sent for final
changes. Quick and dirty and very cheap to implement. <br>
</p>
<p>I did not imagine that everyone would try to reinvent the wheel
in the implementation process. EPP is pretty much standardized,
registrars use EPP to send registration data to thick registries.
The same implementation could be used for the currently thin
registries. <br>
</p>
<p>Of course we were aware that RDS would be coming at some point,
so no one even considered that this be overdesigned and
complicated beyond belief as it would only be for a short period
of time. The more complicated it gets and the more implementation
time and cost expenditure is invested, the more you remove the
basic common sense understanding of making this change. <br>
</p>
<p>I still favor a change to thick over thin, but for all our sakes,
make it as easy as possible without adding new design and
implementation requirements. Use what we already have and be done
with it.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.09.2016 um 15:43 schrieb Marika
Konings:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Having supported the Thick WHOIS PDP WG,
I believe most if not all of its members were well aware of
the work that was ongoing in parallel, but nevertheless the
assumption was that it could take some time for that work to
complete <u>and</u> that any transition to a new model/system
would be easier if all registries would be operating under the
same model. It is also one of the questions that is included
in the RDS PDP WG Charter: Coexistence: What steps should be
taken to enable next-generation RDS coexistence with and
replacement of the legacy WHOIS system?</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Of course, I am happy to stand corrected
if my recollection is wrong.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best regards,</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On 09/09/16 03:40, "Volker Greimann"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Hi Steve,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> I am not proposing to tear it up,
although your raising it a possibility <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> made me think it could be an
alternative. After all, when the PDP WG <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> deliberated this, the EWG was still
in its infancy and a common whois <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> system seemed like a good idea. Now
that the GNSO is working on <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> establishing an alternate RDS which
admittedly is still years on the <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> horizon means that ultimately the
thick whois model this group is trying <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> to find an implementation for will
in all likelyhood ultimately end up <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> being superseded.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> This is why I am advocating a very
lightweight transition model. Limit <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> the implementation needs to the
barest minimum possible. For example, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> who needs new EPP extentions and
contacts for resellers when the same <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> can be achieved with existing means.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> All our work here should be
undertaken with the awareness of the very <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> real possibility that we are working
on something ultimately destined <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> the trash can.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Am 09.09.2016 um 10:05 schrieb
gtheo:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > Hi Steve, et al.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > I guess that listing those
benefits wasn't the greatest move on my <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > part and could be perceived as
I am suggesting :"Let's tear this thing <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > up". Though it does somewhat
highlight the fact that there is <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > currently nothing wrong with
the thin WHOIS in the sense that anything <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > is broken here operational
wise, and needs fixing ASAP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > However, I am not suggesting to
tear it up, beside that is not up to <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > us anyways.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > Furthermore, I am NOT even sure
if that is the solution anyways. It is <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > that complex.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > I do think we have not explored
all the options. Let me elaborate on <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > that some more and make a
suggestion to the IRT and ICANN staff.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > This morning I had a
conversation with the Dutch Registry for <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > .Amsterdam and .FRL to get more
feedback on their process, to deal <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > with the situation with their
Thick WHOIS issues. Turns out they are <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > currently having a discussion
with ICANN GDD and from what I heard <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > they are making progress. I
find this highly interesting as there is <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > no trigger they can use for the
old waiver process from 2006.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > I would suggest if there are no
objections we ask Cyrus from the GDD <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > to attend our next call or
participate on the list and give us more <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > info on:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > -how does it work?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > -what are the timelines?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > -expected duration?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > -what are the practical issues?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > -etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > If we get more insight here
then perhaps we can streamline this and <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > make it work?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > The only issue here is, that it
seems out of scope for the IRT. Yet it <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > may be a path forward for us.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> > Theo<o:p></o:p></p>
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2016-09-08 05:25 PM:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Theo’s ruminations lead me
to repeat the questions I posed to Marc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> last week about his draft
memo:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> (1) The first two
developments to which you cite are the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> invalidation of the US-EU
Safe Harbor Program and the adoption of the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> EU-US Privacy Shield
framework to replace it. My impression is that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> US registries generally did
not rely upon the Safe Harbor in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> processing thick Whois data
(e.g., receiving Whois data containing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> personally identifiable
information from European registrars and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> making it available through
registry Whois), and so would not have<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> been directly impacted by
its invalidation. Is my impression wrong?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> If I am correct then what
is the relevance of either the Safe Harbor<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> or the Privacy Shield in
this context?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> (2) The last paragraph
refers to data localization laws apart from<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> EU privacy/data protection
laws. Can you be more specific? I note<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> that the Russian law was
referenced in footnotes 2 and 10 of the legal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> review provided to the IRT
in June 2015, are there other issues not<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> covered by that analysis?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> (3) If the IRT were to
send this letter, the GNSO council might<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> well ask what (if anything)
we are asking them to do. How would you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> respond?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> In particular, If I
understand Theo correctly, his answer to #3 would<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> be “please tear up the
consensus policy recommended by the Working<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Group, adopted by the GNSO
Council, and approved by the ICANN board,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> it is obsolete, and let’s
not waste [further] time implementing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> it.” Is that reading
correct, and do others in the IRT support<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> that?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> STEVEN J. METALITZ |
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> MITCHELL SILBERBERG &
KNUPP LLP | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://WWW.MSK.COM">WWW.MSK.COM</a> [3]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> FROM: gtheo
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> SENT: Thursday, September
08, 2016 6:57 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> TO: Marika Konings;
Metalitz, Steven; 'Volker Greimann'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> CC:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> SUBJECT: Re:
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Whois Transition Policy for
.COM, .NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Interesting review. After
reading it I agree with Volker here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Few things that stood out.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> It seems the focus was put
on the 95/46/EC Directive (makes sense) but<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Safe Harbor was not
included in. I am not sure if that was intended? I<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> would not be surprised that
anyone ever thought that it would be a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> possibility that it would
be invalidated, and what the consequences<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> are.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Anyways, we just need a
good procedure for this IRT. The legal review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> does not address the
current impediment, so that is not up to us.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> What is up to us, maybe,
are the benefits mentioned in the legal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> review (page5)?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Let me list them:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 1. A thick Whois model
offers attractive archival and restoration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> properties. If a registrar
were to go out of business or experience<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> long-term technical
failures rendering<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> them unable to provide
service, registries maintaining thick Whois<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> have all the registrant
information at hand and could transfer the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> registrations to a
different (or temporary) registrar so that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> registrants could continue
to manage their domain names.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 2. A thick Whois model
reduces the degree of variability in display<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> formats.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 3. Establishing
requirements such as collecting uniform sets of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> data, and display
standards, improves consistency across all gTLDs at<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> all levels and result in
better access to Whois data for all users of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Whois databases (e.g. law
enforcement, Intellectual Property holders,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> etc).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 4. The uptime of the
registry with respect to Whois data has<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> typically been found to be
better (at least marginally) than the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> registrar.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> I am not sure about the
rest of you, but this re-enforces the point<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> that this migration has
been in the freezer for too long.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Point 1, that's why we
have escrow obligations. The reasoning in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> point 1 is not sustainable
for the future I am afraid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Point 2 and 3, This has
been addressed by the RAA 2013 and the AWIP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> policy released in 2015.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Point 4, I suspect with
RDAP this problem will also be solved.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Beside the RAA 2013 also
addresses this with an SLA.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> One could almost argue
there are no benefits. Not sure if you guys<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> want to circle back on this
one and include this in a side note for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> the comment period.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Also, interesting to read
but, out of scope for this IRT (I think) is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> the RDAP solution (page 12
of the legal review)? It could be me, but<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> it almost looks like if
there was a quick procedure and workable<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> procedure then the
technical issue would be solved also, and it would<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> solve our impediment.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Thank you for making it
this far.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Theo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> theo geurts schreef op
2016-09-07 10:22 PM:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Thanks, Marika,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> I'll give that one a
read tomorrow. Though I think Volker is right.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Seems we are operating
under old marching orders, Steve already<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> warned<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> us that this thing has
taken way too long. The draft Verisign<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> prepared<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> does actually highlight
the current situation. And to be fair? How<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> many people would have
thought that Safe Harbor would have been<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> invalidated? Not me for
sure. But I also did not predict the brexit<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Trump running for
president.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> In addition to this, I
think we are in agreement here. It is not up<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> this IRT. We can only
signal the GNSO that most likely we have a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> few<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> impediments.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Theo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> On 7-9-2016 16:53,
Marika Konings wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> And it can be found
here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1434138098000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1434138098000&api=v2</a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> MARIKA KONINGS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Senior Policy Director
& Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Email:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> _ _<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> _Follow the GNSO via
Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> _Find out more about
the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [10<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> [1]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> and visiting the GNSO
Newcomer pages [11]._<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> FROM:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> "Metalitz, Steven"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:met@msk.com"><met@msk.com></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> DATE: Wednesday 7
September 2016 at 08:44<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> TO: 'Volker Greimann'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a>, gtheo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl"><gtheo@xs4all.nl></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> CC:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> SUBJECT: Re:
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Whois Transition Policy
for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> That legal review was
undertaken more than a year ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> STEVEN J. METALITZ |
PARTNER, THROUGH HIS PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> T: 202.355.7902 |
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> MITCHELL SILBERBERG
& KNUPP LLP | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://WWW.MSK.COM">WWW.MSK.COM</a> [2] [1 [3]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> 1818 N Street NW, 8th
Floor, Washington, DC 20036<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> THE INFORMATION
CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> FOR THE PERSONAL AND
CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN
ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> PRIVILEGED AND
CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU
ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> DISSEMINATION,
FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> PROHIBITED. PLEASE
NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> TELEPHONE, AND DELETE
THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> FROM: Volker Greimann
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> SENT: Wednesday,
September 07, 2016 10:44 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> TO: Metalitz, Steven;
gtheo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> CC:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> SUBJECT: Re:
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Whois Transition Policy
for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Partially. As the thick
whois WG clearly recommended that a legal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> review be undertaken
with regard to the impact of any implementation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> on local privacy
legislations, the question of available excemptions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> may well become
relevant to such a review.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Am 07.09.2016 um 16:38
schrieb Metalitz, Steven:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Agree that this issue
is outside the scope of this group.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> STEVEN J. METALITZ |
PARTNER, THROUGH HIS PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> T: 202.355.7902 |
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> MITCHELL SILBERBERG
& KNUPPLLP | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://WWW.MSK.COM">WWW.MSK.COM</a> [2] [1 [3]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> 1818 N Street NW, 8th
Floor, Washington, DC 20036<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> THE INFORMATION
CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> FOR THE PERSONAL AND
CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> RECIPIENTS. THIS
MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> AND AS SUCH IS
PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> MESSAGE IS NOT AN
INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> ANY REVIEW, USE,
DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> MESSAGE IS STRICTLY
PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> REPLY E-MAIL OR
TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR
SYSTEM. THANK YOU.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> FROM:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>] ON BEHALF
OF<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Volker Greimann<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> SENT: Wednesday,
September 07, 2016 9:28 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> TO: gtheo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> CC:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> SUBJECT: Re:
[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Thick Whois Transition
Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Well, I agree that we
need a workable process for obtaining an<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> excemption, but that is
a discussion for another group, I guess.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> An<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Implementation Advisory
Group, if you will. I hear there may soon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> another one of those.
;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Am 07.09.2016 um 15:18
schrieb gtheo:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> That might be a way
forward Volker.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/waiver-request-process-2013-09-13-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/waiver-request-process-2013-09-13-en</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> However, that one
wasn't exactly "speedy". Took me two years to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> obtain<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> one.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> The invalidation of
Safe Harbor was rather sudden. Some<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> governments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> displayed the last 12
months that things can change at record<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> speed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> law wise.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> I guess the problem
boils down to this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> -Sudden changes in law
putting migrated Registrar businesses at<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> risk.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> -The procedure can take
much longer than the proposed timeline.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> -There might be
Registrars that cannot migrate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> I am not sure, but I
have the feeling that it is not up to the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> IRT to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> fix this as it is out
of scope.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Though Registrars who
cannot migrate, we might want to mention<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> RDAP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Even though that is
already mentioned in the RDAP spec when it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> comes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> to Thin WHOIS
Registries.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Theo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Volker Greimann schreef
op 2016-09-07 01:24 PM:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> How about adding:
"Further procedures for resolving conflicts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> with<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> local privacy laws are
included in the 2013 RAA Data Retention<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> specification"?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Am 07.09.2016 um 12:52
schrieb gtheo:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> _1. Where a conflict
exists between local privacy laws and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> requirements included
in this Policy, ICANN's Procedure for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Handling WHOIS
Conflicts with Privacy Laws is available for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Registry<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Operators and
Registrars. _<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> We didn't get around
this yesterday, wich is fine. Let us see<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> if we<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> can have some
discussion in advance about this as I am<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> struggling<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> with this section for a
few now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> The text itself is
good, as in, this is what I expected after<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> discussions we had
about this in the last few months.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> What I am not sure off
is how to deal with this in the sense of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> moving forward to the
comment period.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> The procedure is not
working, but is outside of this IRT to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> address,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> yet this IRT relies on
it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Are we going to put in
a footnote in the report that says<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> something<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> like:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> _Outside the scope of
the IRT to address, but we wish the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Registrars<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> and Registrants the
best of luck!_<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Theo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Dennis Chang schreef op
2016-09-02 02:05 AM:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Dear Thick Whois Policy
Implementation Review Team,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Attached for your
review is our initial draft of the Thick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Whois<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Transition Policy for
.COM, .NET and .JOBS. The draft Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> includes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> the various elements
discussed in our recent meeting on this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> topic.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> As you review the
draft, you will find bracketed text in four<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> sections: sections 2.9,
2.10, 3.4 and 3.5. These sections are<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> bracketed because they
reference the Registry Registration Data<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Directory Services
Consistent Labeling and Display Policy and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Registration Data
Access Protocol gTLD Profile. As you may be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> aware, a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Request for
Reconsideration (RfR) was submitted by the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Registries<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Stakeholder Group in
August regarding the Registry Registration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Data<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Directory Services
Consistent Labeling and Display Policy [1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> [1]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> that was<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> published on 26 July
2016. The RfR objects to the inclusion of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> RDAP in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> the Consensus Policy.
While the RfR goes through its own<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> process,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> we<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> thought it was
important to continue progressing the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> implementation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> project with the goal
of opening Public Comment in September<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> announcing the
Transition Policy by 1 February 2017 per our<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> schedule.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Therefore, the text is
bracketed as it may need to be revisited<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> pending the resolution
of the RfR and we wanted to directly<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> IRT's attention to it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> We will review all
contents of the document at our next IRT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> meeting as<o:p></o:p></p>
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provide your comments in advance via email if<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Thank you for your
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> -- <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> Dennis S. Chang<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>> GDD Services &
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396
901<o:p></o:p></p>
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851<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a>
[5] [3 [5]] / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a> [6] [4 [6]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
[10] [8 [10]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> 66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396
901<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396
851<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Email:
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
[10] [8 [10]]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Registration No.: HR B
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a> [11] [9
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.key-systems.net">http://www.key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [4] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">http://www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [5]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">http://www.domaindiscount24.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [6]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">http://www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [7]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [8]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">http://www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [9] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">http://www.keydrive.lu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [10]
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [11]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers">http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://WWW.MSK.COM">http://WWW.MSK.COM</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [3] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.msk.com/">http://www.msk.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [4] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.icann.org">http://www.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [5]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.key-systems.net">http://www.key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [6] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">http://www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [7]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">http://www.domaindiscount24.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [8]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">http://www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [9]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [10]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">http://www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> [11] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">http://www.keydrive.lu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> -- <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen
gerne zur Verfügung.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> - Rechtsabteilung -<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder
werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 -
Saarbruecken<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist
vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt.
Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe
an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese
Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich
mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Should you have any further
questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> - legal department -<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Registration No.: HR B 18835 -
Saarbruecken<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
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- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
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Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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